Krow Ames Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 In my experience, there is just no redeeming qualities about a .22 other than price per round. The "bounce around inside of you" is a complete myth. For it to do that, it would need to encounter bone thick enough to deflect the bullet, but also the bullet would need to retain enough velocity to change direction and keep traveling. It's highly improbable since you're talking about the bullet traveling through solid mass like muscle and organs.The myth started when people said that the .22 had enough power to enter the human skull, but not exit. So it would just bounce. This is false. The brain matter would stop a .22 caliber bullet at about 3/4 to an inch. I've heard this myth all over. Being from the south, there are a lot of people who think they know everything about firearms and they perpetuate this rediculous myth.I remember hearing this myth in about the sixth grade and the kid said "Yeah, it travels inside your veins and bounces between your bones all the way through you body."edit: I have no problem with the .223/5.56. I believe those are good rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphre Iredell Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 All bullets fired at the right place can be lethal, and no, .22LR doesn't really 'bounce' as Krow has gone over. All projectiles are immediately slowed by the very nature of the body being composed of water. The answer to the great debate of 'What would you rather be shot by?' is D. None of the Above..22LR revolvers are fun though because they hold moar boolits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Karlfeldt Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 A 6mm BB can be fatal if you penetrate the skull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadmon Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 wordsWhile I have never heard any of that nonsense, especially the brain and vein thing, I know from experience that it can ricochet off a rib at least once :P(long story, in short alcohol + red neck family + cousin cleaning a .22 with round left in chamber after popping turtles and small animals on farm = taking one in the ribcage and traveling from initial rib 2 ribs up and getting lodged.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krow Ames Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Then it would be deflection. That's not uncommon in any caliber, as I've heard rounds as large as .45 caliber have deflected off shoulderblades.However, when a .22LR drops to about 77 footpounds at 100 yards, the round loses it's usefulness. A .22 short only has about 70 footpounds at muzzle. I stand by my statement and say that .22 is only good for teaching kids and just plinking around in the back yard.I hardly ever pull out my considerable gun knowledge, but I'm always happy to do so when it comes to the usefulness (or lack thereof) of the .22 caliber family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadmon Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 it almost killed a president. Ronald Reagan. ;pIm not trying to suggest that .22 are the best ever or that they bounce indefinitely inside you (I simply heard that the deflection as you put it isnt uncommon with .22) im just saying that when the time comes if thats all you have you dont have to worry about it not being able to do the job. And considering most gunfights / home defense shootings are within a few feet the whole range thing doesnt matter too much(Edit: For the record, I much prefer my XD40 over my .22 any day still ;p ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsume Xiao Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 In my experience, there is just no redeeming qualities about a .22 other than price per round.It's fun to shoot targets with, firearms chambered for it are inexpensive and you can shoot all day to $20. :DP.S. Talk about energy in Joules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krow Ames Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 The charts I had to look up only listed shit in ftlbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Flaks Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 NONE OF THESE POSTS ARE REVOLVERS.POST REVOLVERS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disraeli Calderwood Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 WANT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Valen Leinhardt Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) Hey guys.......am I doing it right? Edited March 2, 2012 by Valen Leinhardt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadmon Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Thats a really neat way to be ineffective at 3 things at once! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSergal Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 “Ferris Wheel” design invented by Joseph Enouy cap n ball revolvers.And speaking of cap n ball:Belgian gun maker, Mariette's answer to more firepower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bleac Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 The Mariette gun looks like it could take your hand clean off if one of those barrels burst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadmon Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Lets remix how it revolves.reportedly a revolving japanese cannon, naval presumably?Whether Puckle's 7 barrel flintlock"confederate" revolving cannon, ((Looks like a drawing/shoop ))There is a record of one being used in the defense of Petersburg, Va. Another was purchased by Gov. Zebulon B. Vance of North Carolina, and called by his skeptical constituents "Vance's folly." Later this weapon was captured by a Union cavalry unit under Maj. Gen. George Stoneman at Salisbury, N. C., in April 1865.a carbine by a guy named collier in 1820ish18th century russian artillery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Reisman Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Karlfeldt Posted March 4, 2012 Author Share Posted March 4, 2012 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBQ2mflwnEU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Karlfeldt Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tnuWf0xP20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadmon Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Thats pretty slick, the idea of having optional 4 shots of whatever you want like 1 tube for breach, 1 tube for beanbags, 2 tubes for slugs or some sort of shot ect makes it handy for law enforcement who likely wont be engaging too much, with a full lethal magazine tube on the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsume Xiao Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Thats pretty slick, the idea of having optional 4 shots of whatever you want like 1 tube for breach, 1 tube for beanbags, 2 tubes for slugs or some sort of shot ect makes it handy for law enforcement who likely wont be engaging too much, with a full lethal magazine tube on the side.The Neostead 2000 and the new Kel-Tec shotgun have dual feed tubes and are capable of feeding from one or the other at the flip of a lever (or can feed for both by alternating). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krow Ames Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 They should make multi purpose magazines for that thing. All they'd have to do is make different colored marks on the tubes. Like red for lethal, blue for non-lethal, etc. Otherwise, if I were law enforcement and got to use that, I'd put different colored tape on the tubes to distinguish which type of round I'm loading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadmon Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Thats what I was thinking, either taking a marker or some simple color dot stickers or something on each tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krow Ames Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Found a diagram of a pretty huge four chamber revolver. Wish I could afford one of these bad boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
