Corsi Mousehold Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 ~ORDO IMPERIALIS~OFFICIAL DOCUMENT<=====================Extend to this length=========================><===========================================================>**********Meeting Report**********NAME/RANK/DIVISION: Corsi Mousehold | E-8; Praepositus | Antesignani------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------DATE: 18 December 2010------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------SUBJECT: Main weekly meeting.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------SUMMARY:From Combat to Erebus============================================================CHAT LOG:Meeting Opener[18:01] Aryte Vesperia: Obligatory starter, as always: welcome to this week’s meeting. Per the norm, please be certain to hold all questions and comments until provided the opportunity to speak. Interruptions will result in dismissal from the gathering. When you are provided the chance to speak, be sure to /shout/ your comments or questions—otherwise the recorder may not hear you. Thank you: let’s get to it.Imperator's Report[18:02] Aryte Vesperia: StatisticsMembers: 312 Cadets: 7ApplicationsNew: 15Accepted: 1Denied: 9Review:5CombatDefensive: 98Offensive: 10Allied Assist: 0Diplomatic Report[18:03] Aryte Vesperia: Diplomatic notes this week will largely be covered during the keynote. However, some mentions to be made now: TAC has seen somewhat of resurgence, with multiple major assaults conducted by TAC on IS targets. We were host to two—early week, CATI attempted to distract us while the remainder of TAC hit Badnarik. Then, it seemed that mid-week they reversed that, with CATI engaging the Mercz while the remainder hit Titan. On both occasions, TAC was dealt with in stride. Well done.In other news, it would appear that Exilion Enclave has reached a fairly crippled state. Notably, one of their officers is . . . triple enlisted in Exilion, Vanguard, and SE2. It may be safe to say the group is in its death throes.Divisional Reports[18:04] Aryte Vesperia: Unit reports this evening?[18:05] Aryte Vesperia raises .. hand for Terra.[18:05] Aryte Vesperia: Ah yes, thank you Aryte.Terra[18:05] Aryte Vesperia: From Corsi for Antesignani: Light week for Ante over all. Computer issues and the holiday season in general taking it's toll. Individual members still highly active on defense and offense of course and everyone in the squad has been doing their part in the heavy increase in hostilities this past week. We'll be working on picking the training back up after the holiday season. Also there are several positions left open in the squad and we have seen people in Cohors B looking to move up to the Alpha squads in general. Don't be afraid to contact Cohors A Commanders to discuss things![18:05] Aryte Vesperia: From Krow for Insidiae: Activity is returning to normal, however several people have been cut from the squad. Hollowmengitus Yifu is now Insidiae's XO, and he's already making improvements to it's efficiency. The squad's main goal is recruitment for now, and Insidiae will be ramping up the process it uses to recruit. All things are good in the house of Insidiae. We are what is best in life. Also, for those of you who read this: I love cupcakes.[18:06] Aryte Vesperia: From Eriksson for Invictus: Yet another extremely active week for Invictus, the new inductees are getting all settled in and fitting in perfectly. We do indeed have a command appointment: Kastrenzo Benelli has been appointed the new Executive Officer (XO) of Invictus. He was chosen not only for his past experience and prior service, but for his constant dedication to Invictus and his extended efforts to better the squad entirely. We hope to continue the high participation we've been having over the past few weeks through joint squad trainings and squad raids. As another reminder: We do still have a few spots open in Invictus, so please express interest to either Eriksson Foxtrot or Kastrenzo Benelli! That's all from Invictus this week![18:06] Aryte Vesperia: From Thatguy for Cohors B: Activity has dropped due to Alpha squads stealing my childrens :C New plans for Cohors B to help bulk-up the empty spots, as well as two leadership opportunities. One of which has been posted in the forums [http://forums.ordoimperialis.com/index.php?/topic/10705-century-leadership-position-open-17dec10/page__pid__77633#entry77633]. Eriksson will keep B-I until further notice.[18:07] Aryte Vesperia: From Huttser for Cohors C: :d[18:07] Huttser Ishelwood: \o/[18:07] Aryte Vesperia: Additional reports for this evening?[18:07] Ethan Schuman raises his hand for Astra.[18:07] Aryte Vesperia: Mr. Schuman?Astra[18:07] Ethan Schuman: For Astra this week:I won't lie. Activity for us this week has been pretty dismal. We've had a handful of scattered defensive deployments and some training, as well as a few of us going on raids, but that's about it. However, this is far from the end of days. People are on holiday and doing other stuff, so this is to be expected. On the bright side, however, we have ourselves a new partner in the skies. Cthonic Syndicate has expressed extreme interest in joint exercises, but their active numbers are low too. Because of this, we're going to take a different approach to engagements involving them. Instead of going through the frustrating, and often futile, hassle of pre-scheduling events, I am instituing an open exercise policy. In short, if you want to host a training or something, feel free to go over to Zagros and ask if any of their pilots want to join in. This same offer will be extended to them. This does NOT include full out, proper attacks. This only applies to exercises. Air raids still require prop[18:07] Ethan Schuman: er authorization. Reports regarding events should be filed as usual. That's all we have for this week.[18:09] Aryte Vesperia: To add: Erebus welcomes air attacks.[18:09] Aryte Vesperia: Any additional reports?[18:10] Aryte Vesperia: Final call.[18:11] Aryte Vesperia: All righty, moving right along.Keynote Topics[18:11] Aryte Vesperia: I. Scriptology[18:12] Aryte Vesperia: After careful review, the powers that be have determined Scriptology weaponry is way outside of permissible bounds within Titan. This is based on overall impact and RPM—to put it into perspective, their SCAR outclasses our minigun.[18:13] Aryte Vesperia: Due to the frequent use and subsequent abuse of the Scriptology weapons, primarily by lone wolf assaults, the decision has been made to place the weaponry line on the chopping block for blanket ban by visitors. This decision may be subject to further review and modification as time allows. However, at the moment, Scriptology may be considered a blacklisted provider.[18:14] Aryte Vesperia: II. Radar Query[18:14] Aryte Vesperia: For some time now, the question has been on the table: what functions of the main Ordo HUD are worth keeping and which are worth adding. Several members have mentioned the radar function as outmoded by the existence of client radars that provided a scriptless option that is, in all rights, far more effective in reading the position of individuals.[18:15] Aryte Vesperia: With that in mind, it is up to consideration. By a show of hands, how many individuals actually utilize the Ordo HUD radar over the client radar options? If the number is found to be low enough, the opportunity will be taken to remove that function, which should actually make a pretty dramatic cutback in script time generated by the HUD. We'll pause for a minute to give folks an opportunity to respond.[18:15] Huttser Ishelwood raises hand.[18:15] Jayce Iredell raises his hand[18:15] fatalitywolf Firehawk: raises hand.[18:16] Afevis Sodertelge raises paw.[18:16] Wulf Lykin raises his paw[18:16] Kyra Vixen raises her paw, noting it is useful for quickly determining who is around, without having to pull open the radar and covering more screen real estate.[18:17] Aryte Vesperia: Good to know. Thank you. An alternative option would be to have it set to "off" by default, thus allowing folks who actually get use out of it to toggle it on when they wish.[18:17] Aryte Vesperia: Moving on.[18:17] Aryte Vesperia: III. Region Notes[18:18] Aryte Vesperia: Steadily, the new build is being shaped out. The goal is to form up a shell, so as to be able to swap out the current build with a useable combat map. The transition period will be fairly interesting, as prims continue to become more important: over time, we will be ripping out portions of the current build to ensure enough prims are provided for expansion of the new build.[18:19] Aryte Vesperia: Eventually, it is likely we will wipe clean the ground floor in lieu of having intricate trench networks and temporary structures to house our primary functions. The temporary set up would be a very brief hold over, but permit easier transition to the new city scape. You will all be kept up to date as decisions are made, simply do not be too surprised if you log on one day to a barren field of trenches and bunkers.[18:20] Aryte Vesperia: I am eyeing the possibility of having a temporary “no jetpack” regulation once we swap to the trenches, as .. well, frankly trenches would quickly become useless for us and our attackers if we could simply jetpack over them. To clarify: if this occurs, it’d be a brief set up and a brief rule set. Jetpacks will remain in our armory and would return to OK use on defense with the city scape.[18:22] Aryte Vesperia: IV. Rank Names[18:22] Aryte Vesperia: Per my strong arming and insistence on the death of Sesquiplicarius, the vote has shifted majorly in the favor of new rank names! :D[18:22] Aryte Vesperia: Democracy in action, I say~[18:23] Aryte Vesperia: Within short accord, a final list will be published. They will maintain the Roman appeal, but have a lot less ARIUS.[18:23] Aryte Vesperia: Questions thus far?[18:23] thatguy Andel raises a hand[18:23] Aryte Vesperia: Andel?[18:23] Wulf Lykin raises a paw[18:24] thatguy Andel: Are we going to have a vote on the forums, and will the new names be provided as well?[18:25] Aryte Vesperia: . .[18:25] Aryte Vesperia: Check the forums. :][18:25] Aryte Vesperia: Lykin?[18:25] thatguy Andel: WHAT, IM OUT OF THE LOOP, OKAY?[18:25] Wulf Lykin: about the build swap for the trenches, do you need any builders for that? i would like ot participate for it[18:26] Aryte Vesperia: It'll likely be primarily terraforming. But if it does come to that, I will certainly let you know![18:26] Aryte Vesperia: Any additional questions? :][18:27] Aryte Vesperia: Final call.[18:27] Aryte Vesperia: Excellent. Moving on:[18:27] Aryte Vesperia: V. “Reset Button” – Statement on Erebus, combat expectations, and conduct.[18:28] Aryte Vesperia: The following is a somewhat modified statement that was provided to the officer corps last night. It covers several topics that are fairly important to our day to day operation.[18:29] Aryte Vesperia: The Erebus question: fair or unfair, is one that requires a decisive intervention and, frankly, nonnegotiable terms of agreement across all parties. This statement comes after careful study of multiple events, all revolving around our interactions and reactions with Erebus. There is a notable pattern that has developed, one that created a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy of trouble. The very same labeling could create a host of problems with other groups-- that aside; the current trend has already developed a host of problems.[18:31] Aryte Vesperia: It is important to prefix and stress: all parties involved have acted within the best intent for the group, as such; no individual should be damned or receive scorn. Perspective and ideology are the culprits here, not malice or any real attempt to create harm. Malice and harm, however, have been born from perspective and ideology.[18:32] Aryte Vesperia: The separation of the above is as important as understanding the acts themselves. An individual may act with the very best intent; however create an atmosphere or reaction that is very far from their intended outcome. This is demonstrated throughout the ordeal.[18:33] Aryte Vesperia: That said, it should be considered that Erebus is the catalyst for this strain of events. There is a set of discernible corners: individuals who are perceived (see; emphasis on perceived) as "pro-Erebus" and individuals who are perceived as "anti-Erebus." The groupings are especially vague, and purposefully so-- it demonstrates within itself the black and white nature of the issue that is, for all realistic rights, very grey.[18:34] Aryte Vesperia: "Pro-Erebus" individuals are lambasted as ignoring their duties or providing unusual leniency to Erebus members during interaction. These accusations stretch anywhere from failure to act within official capacity, to blatant abuse of official capacity to favor Erebus during their interactions. There is a great deal of untold story that creates this perception. However advocating politeness with Erebus, the "pro-Erebus" side is acting within reasonable regard. It must be stressed that, although not apparent, "pro-Erebus" individuals are integral in controlling Erebus gear, diplomatically resolving complaint, and maintaining combat standards.[18:35] Aryte Vesperia: For example: individuals labeled as "pro-Erebus" have been the parties involved in ensuring Erebus weaponry and materials are modified to fit our requirements. Most recently, Erebus's bomber was tagged as unacceptable. Earlier, Erebus modified its jetpack to feature a mode option. Even further, "pro-Erebus" individuals mitigated Erebus banning of Ordo weaponry, gaining clearance for items such as our communications pack.[18:37] Aryte Vesperia: "Anti-Erebus" individuals are tagged as being dogmatic and imagining offense by Erebus members. This includes claims that "anti-Erebus" members are focusing their dislike for Erebus into false problems, rather than reporting actual occurrences of issues for the sake of wishing to see deterioration of standards. However, once more, there appears to be a great deal of reasoning behind claims-- whether perceived problems or realized, member complaints are based upon witnessed events.[18:39] Aryte Vesperia: The existence of these sides have created a clear hyper-tensity. This creates the self fulfillment portion of the equation. For example: an "anti-Erebus" individual perceives an Erebus member as moving forward with their jetpacks, thus spurning complaint. A "pro-Erebus" individual then rejects the complaint, noting the jetpack has been tested. The "anti-Erebus" individual, having witnessed what appeared to be a forward movement, is then left unsatisfied and continues to witness the action. Over time, the vocalized concern becomes shared concern, until which time an "anti-Erebus" coalition of multiple members is witnessing the same incident.[18:40] Aryte Vesperia: A great deal of damage is thus potentially created in the solidarity bind, all based upon a failure to communicate a critical portion: Erebus jetpacks have an animation that leans them forward, giving the appearance of flying. This coupled with the occasion (although rare, it finds itself documented) that an Erebus member utilizes their jetpack to do unusual movement, essentially empowers the complaint even further, aggravating it massively. This continues, and has continued, until essentially the "anti-Erebus" and "pro-Erebus" corners are expending a great deal of effort trying to find fault in one another, while combat and interaction suffers.[18:43] Aryte Vesperia: Attention is thus taken off Erebus (or even other attackers) and the reasons for the complaints, in order to take stubborn stance, all while ignoring the reality: each "side" is wrong and right at the same time. There is a kernel of truth and reason to both ends.[18:45] Aryte Vesperia: This leaves us with one option. One option that will be enforced and expected: we are hitting the reset button. All transgressions internally and externally regarding Erebus are to be wiped clean. We will re-enter the arena with a clear mind, more informed, and prepared to overcome all obstacles. Solidarity is required. In all things-- not just Erebus. As such, we will enforce or rather, reinforce the following expectations:[18:46] Aryte Vesperia: We are to stick to a strict "controlled complaint" policy among the membership during combat: we must control interactions and ensure complaints are kept on official channel. It will not be tolerated for individuals of any rank to comment monger about the actions of our enemies: any concern should be brought up correctly, for formal processing by the OIC and, if necessary, estate administration.[18:47] Keller Teichmann raises his hand.[18:47] Aryte Vesperia: We are to ensure that combat is treated as a gift, not a burden. We will welcome and face our enemies at any time, for any amount of time, for any reason. We will make all available effort to make combat enjoyable for our members and those participating here, without unreasonably burdening our defense. This includes controlling complaint or making any mention of shirking interaction: never should we complain about how often we are attacked.[18:48] Aryte Vesperia: We will make certain to respect that Erebus (and other enemies), although sometimes appearing not, is attempting to validly pursue friendly combat with us. We will recognize they have modified their gear and made effort to respect our low numbers in twilight hour. Despite past events, we will give them a fair chance to make good.[18:49] Aryte Vesperia: However, we shall also respect the ability of Erebus, and other enemies, to be in the wrong. We will treat every scenario and event individually; ensuring hostile parties are treated fairly but dealt proper justice when an incident occurs. Administration will take especially careful note of member complaints when filed officially and respectfully, ensuring all concerns are met without ridicule or disrespect.[18:50] Aryte Vesperia: Above all else, we will redouble our efforts to not create an uncomfortable atmosphere for any member, regardless of their perspective.[18:50] Aryte Vesperia: Keller? (Questions open.)[18:50] Keller Teichmann: Can I light Zashi on fire?[18:51] Aryte Vesperia: On topic questions or comments.[18:51] Aryte Vesperia: Final opportunity.[18:52] Mark Karlfeldt raises hand?[18:52] Aryte Vesperia: Karlfeldt?[18:53] Mark Karlfeldt: If I may ask, could you give more detail on how Ordo is interacting with Erebus to ensure compliance in regards to rules and such?[18:55] Aryte Vesperia: Several administration members are tasked to coordinating efforts to relay formal complaint on our part. Erebus has been responsive to our issues-- especially pertaining to gear matters. To date, publicity of their compliance has been pretty sparse (by accident). However there has been definite headway.[18:57] Aryte Vesperia: Beyond gear, incidents during combat itself have been corrected by the presiding Erebus commander at request of the OIC. For example, yesterday we had an issue with a newer Erebus member utilizing the "red text" version of their jetpack. Said individual was pulled aside by the Erebus commander and instructed to change.[18:58] Aryte Vesperia: I can't attest that the same respect is present by all Erebus officers, however Lilium Supermarine remains amicable and helpful. Our interactions with other officers has been far more sparse.[18:58] Aryte Vesperia: Additional questions?[19:02] Corsi Mousehold: So it would be safe to assume that a more proper way to address a questionable incident or peice of gear would be to contact the currect defense OIC rather than say something in ventrillo. Thus the already standing protocol of combat pertinance in Vent is kept and the situation addressed.[19:02] Corsi Mousehold tosses a question mark at the end of that.[19:02] Aryte Vesperia: Correct. That would be far more preferable.[19:03] Aryte Vesperia: Any additional questions?[19:04] Aryte Vesperia: Very good. Thank you all for the input and your time this evening. I believe I'm being dragged to an Astra meet right after this meeting, soooo I'll be leaving it up to my helpful and awesome staff to arrange a raid for the evening. Or multiple raids. Multiple raids sound good.[19:04] Ethan Schuman: (That meet is tomorrow)[19:05] Ethan Schuman: (Exercises are tonight)[19:05] Aryte Vesperia: Well okay then.[19:05] Ron Bleac raises hand.[19:05] Ethan Schuman: (....which I forgot to send the notice for. FFFFFF)[19:05] Aryte Vesperia: Bleac?[19:05] Ron Bleac: May I make a statement, sir?[19:05] Aryte Vesperia: Of course.[19:06] Ron Bleac shouts: Rumors of my death on the battlefield are untrue. Whilst I have been bumped around a bit by personal issues and other things, in virtual reality and reality, I'm still here.[19:06] Ron Bleac shouts: After running through a minefield to clear my head, that is.[19:06] Ron Bleac shouts: That is all.[19:07] Aryte Vesperia: Thank you.[19:07] Aryte Vesperia: That said. Promotions will be up tomorrow morning. Let's break and get some raids out. Huzzah and stuff.[19:07] Aryte Vesperia: Dismissed.[19:07] Aryte Vesperia clasps his fist to his chest, presenting a salute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...