Dagurath

I'm quite disapointed at ALL the limitatinos of FPS , but oh well i shouldhave expected since it's a EA game. So far ONLY NCSOFT has made a TRUE FPS experience with their games. Ex: Lineage2 and Aion. And it works... Kinda saved Lineage and Aion. Tons of new players.

I'll be making a decent post with Notes and features here when i deem them enough to make people feel interested in the game or not. The Alpha is filled with issues and bugs, but the game is still fun and playable. DayZ fans will feel very familiar to the game it might even feel 'easier' since DayZ has arma mechanics. PvP is a bit intense at the moment since griefers are using Alpha and exploits to turn PvP into Deathmatch kill on sight. But that is also being worked on... On the good side... Devs have been doing Daily patches fixing bugs and adding features such as Safe Settlements and Global Inventory accessible within the settlements only. Soon to come, reputation system and Bounty system... I should post some cool info when theses are working. Or by the time Beta start, day 31.

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Oh no - You got me wrong. I know you weren't hating, i was refering to Scarlet and his earlier posts showing some stuff. Nor i was "Exploding" at you. I was just trying to explain my point to WHY i don't agree with ALL the hate people make about the game, JUST because it's a knock-off or whatever. What i meant: You like it, but some people don't. That means people can criticize a game for the WRONG reasons? Like i said before - I Couldn't care less if people think it's a ripoff or knock off or whatever! Only fact that matters : Game is fun? Yes or No. I have a 2-3 months of experience on DayZ and play Warz - I can say without a doubt that once beta comes out it will be a great game.

Well suit yourself >.> So much for respectful and serious discussion >.>

Oh well - You know us! Anything to get your attention, Oh Lord of Ponies.

Okay... Did you REALLY do that? So i tell you to not pay attention to hate campaings and instead wait to see for YOURSELF ... You post THAT? Who's being dramatic now? I stand with my last line... SIMPLE - Do not give attention to hate campaings! Wait and SEE FOR YOURSELF! So you can ACTUALLY have your OWN opinions and not a opinion corrupted by hate and false statements. Dis - Even if it is a ripoff... it's not the worst nor the first one to happen. Also no one's obligated to support the game, but why hate it just because someone said so? It is WRONG to criticize the game without even trying it out or seeing the game AFTER release. Also Dis - YOU think DayZ is superior. What about the people who DO NOT like DayZ mechanics but still want to play a similar game? For example, keller. Will he want to play a game for people are making a shitload of hate about it ? Specialy when the main reason for all that hate is the fact that maybe the game is a knock off? PLUS The only thing that SHOULD matter on a game is ' Is it FUN? So it's worth my money! ' ? I never said that mods are worse in anyway. I was completely misunderstood! I was SPECIFICALLY talking of DAYZ MOD. At the current state... It DOES NOT have the complete immersion potential that the standalone will have. About immersion...DayZ has great sound effects for a mod and FREE at that. But WarZ HAS better immersion vs the current DayZ. Nothing to argue there... Unless you played the game, you can't argue about that. I played both and i can assure you. It IS better! Simple things like sounds, AI AND MAP specificaly created for a ZOMBIE apocalypse game - Is something you CAN NOT deny as better immersion. Not to mention stuff like Zombie and Items respawn spots that are immersion breaking on DayZ. As for being dramatic - Well it's the truth! What do you think it will happen if people pay attention to Hate Campaing? They won't give the game a chance or will hate the game for bad facts and stuff that was fixed. You need proof to believe that? Just do what i SUGGESTED... Wait until the game is publicly released and see for yourself... All i said here was based on my experience playing the game and people talking on the chat and forums. My word not good enough? Wait to see for yourself... Simple as that. There's quite a few DayZ players on WarZ alpha and forums. Believe it or not ! But the PvP problem on WarZ right now is mainly caused by Bandit Players that came from DayZ. AND PLEASE! Don't post more crappy images without a good reason. I have a feeling you're incinuating something i'm not... that would make it completely unecessary AND quite offensive.

I'll TRY make this short - You're obviously a HUGE DayZ and Arma Fan, Scarlet. But for a Zombie Survival game you don't need a Simulator engine or complexity to be good. Which is quite easily hacked in this case... You can say that WarZ is " a console-tier arcade casual shooter and not a survival game like DayZ at all. " but you haven't even played the game or seen the game after the issues is fixed. It's easy to criticize when all you do is read hate campaing ... You know that. All i can say is: The Arcade shooter feeling is due to the game not being refined and not having crucial features implemented. That will change as it gets close to beta... ALL info you have on WarZ is derived from Hate Campaing... That says it all. DayZ is currently a mod, thus unable to gives us ALL the Immersion potential it has... DEAL with this... it's a fact. I never said ALL mods are bad, yes there are MANY mods better hten the base game. I usually play ALL games i can with mods when available. ALso - The GREAT mods, are from games that are MADE to be that way. The mods just enable the game to be what it could be. DayZ and WarZ survival aspects are the same level...WarZ are even more reliable. SO there is no 'Dumbed down' bs here...You just like DayZ better, GOOD for you. When DayZ standalone comes out i'm deffinately checking it. I MIGHT be the same as WarZ but in the simulator style of Arma - IT MAY NOT! It may just be an ARMA 3 version of DayZ current model. Also don't forget - There are people that don't like the way DayZ works because of Arma Mechanics. They do'nt feel right to some people... WarZ maybe the answer... What about these people? They shoudl stay out of WarZ because the die hard fans of DayZ make hate campaings or whine about it being a copy? Wait till the game is released to criticize it ... - Certain things here - Originality - NOT everything in the world is original, if you think about something, does nto mean you're the original owner of that idea. In that case, was it original? No it was not. Was it stolen? Not itwas not. What is it? It woudl be a person using MY words to say the exact same thing. In this case, WarZ is using the same IDEA that DayZ has to create something more familiar to those who don't like Arma Mechanics. What's wrong with that? SO those who don't like are FORCED to play DayZ or not play at all ? WarZ is different... Deal with it? Just because WarZ plays different then DayZ does not mean it's crappy. You Don't like it? Alright ! But sharing hate campaings without even seeing or trying for yourself is not right. Theres ton of DayZ fans on the Alpha and most of them are quite surprized by how good and promising the game really is. WHO cares of it's original game or not? We care if the game is FUN! Also let me state that the Reputation is not the only thing ORIGINAL added to WarZ. But just the Rep is a BIG change from DayZ scenery. I'm pretty sure that MANY players left DayZ for the increase in Random bandits just camping hills for fun...At least i did! Everything should have drawbacks. Well now... So much for keeping it short... To put it simple - Don't give attention to Hate Campaing... Wait for the game release, check it out. If you still don't like, it's alright! Wait for DayZ Standalone and everyone's happy!

To put it simple... You guys are allowed to believe who ever you want ^^ I'm on the alpha and despite the PvP Ffff Fest and waiting for Rep system to get in the game. I'm having a blast! WarZ has everything DayZ has to offer but has the immersion that a mod can't give... I can say that by the time Beta starts, WarZ will be a very fun and smooth game. The Map is great, the Sounds are great, the Zombies need more work but they feel much more immersive then DayZ. Guns are rare, Ammos are VERY VERY VERY rare. Reputation System will put Bandits on a dillema - I can kill those survivors just for fun or for their loot, but then i won't be able to visit the safe zones no more and i'll have people hunting me for bounties. Wanna be a badass bandit! ALRIGHT! Deal with the consequences of being a wanted person though. Keller and Shiz, i suggest you guys keep an eye out for videos by November and check the game by yourselves. WarZ might be the game for you guys in case you did not get used to Arma Engine.

(Also remember, i play both DayZ and WarZ so i'm not just a WarZ fanboy. Also a few of you guys know me so yeah.) Quite a few of those statements are lies y'know? The most laughable one - Is that kid who streamed the game even though there is a NDA prohibiting from that. Guess it's no surprize it was a kid. I'm in the Alpha for WarZ. WarZ feels MUCH more immersive then DayZ. PLAYS the same way as DayZ and much more control friendly. You CANT buy revives. At the moment if you die, you get a 1hour wait for revival of same character OR you can play with another character - You can create up to 5 characters. OR - You can delete your dead character and recreate it and paly right away... Game is NOT a stolen idea or else what i asked you would be true. DayZ made a Zombie Survival game, so no one else allowed to? I'm playing the alpha. It begun 15 October. The bugs and crashes found so far were 80% fixed... Yes there is a Cash shop, because Hammerpoint is not a big company like Bohemia Studios, it's a Indie one. ANd WHATS WRONG, what they wanting to have a cash shop? You do'nt HAVE to buy anything from it. And you can't buy weapons from it... So it's not pay to win. Also - All this BS for when WarZ begun to be worked on is just haters trying to find a reason to hate the game... Anyway i won't tell you guys who to believe, but those who did not get used to DayZ. WarZ is 'check it out' game! Specially once the Reputation System fix the PvP KOS bs that happens on DayZ too. Which was expected. The game has been on alpha for barely 2 days! How long has DayZ, a mod, been on alpha until the bugs were sorted out? ANd HOW MANY bugs there is still on DayZ? Like ZOmbies don't follow you into buildings or slopes and etc? Yes on WarZ PvP is kinda like a Fffffest at the moment, but that's because they allowed PvP without the Reputation System which will add Drawbacks for Killing folks. ALso another thing there is NOT on DayZ. How is that also stolen idea? Also - Like i stated before, WarZ runs on a new version of WarInc engine. SO YES it will look familiar! But it's not the same. Yes there are things 'copied' from WarInc! SO WHAT? I would copy stuff form MY other game if it's no big deal! What's wrong about using the same house or barn model if it's a GOOD one? Or character or Item or whatever... It looks alright , sowhy complain about that? Obviously that person is jut trying to add more gas so people will hate the game before trying it out for themselves or giving a chance to check it out once people are allowed to post videos and screenshots. Thats why the NDA prohibits people from posting stuff, because the game is NOT unbugged or ready for release and they do'nt want hters doing hate campaings on the game.

Well it's a good thing we shall have both DayZ and WarZ coming out soon right?! Like Caleb said, DayZ will just get better and better. Meanwhile WarZ will allow others who can't get used to DayZ mechanics to also join in the Zombie Survival fun.

(Let me say this before i begin: I like and endorse both games... But complaining about WarZ before the game is even released and tested by players is quite dumb unless you use the right argument. No offense ^^'.) Look - They said they had to announce the game sooner because of DayZ going standalone. Can't you see it? Is it true or not, i don't care. Because the game won't stop being worked on just because it left alpha and beta stages. DAYZ is a mod right now... IMAGINE if they released it AFTER DayZ Standalone? Hell why would anyone pay attention to it? It's like asking " Hey who do i trust more, that indie company or a well known Modder that i like + Bohemia Studios? " About the alpha thingy, thts just BS caleb >.> If the owner/maker/studio wants it it can stay alpha/beta or whatever as long as they want... it was done before. Just like APB reloaded! APB reloaded was on beta for /at least/ 1 year now, probably more! And the game was 'ready for release' at like... Patch 1.4.5 or 1.5. Releasing a game and updating it is no different from leaving the game in 'alpha stage' and continue to add stuff ... Also, do you really thing it will be different for DayZ standalone? They are going to work on it and when it's close to do they are going to announce it, then after a while they will test it (IF they do) and release. EDIT 1:As for the mod... Well the mod will always be limited to ARMA 2 nd the fact that its a mod... So they can't make the game work the way they want, they have to make the mod work the way the game allows. DayZ standalone MAY be better then WarZ, but there's nothing to prove that right now does it? So at least let's just enjoy the good and baddies of both games without acting like WarZ is some War Crime against Zombie Survival Games. EDIT 2: DayZ mod will always be clunky cause of ARMA 2 engine. No one said it was Dumb it's GREAT actually. The idea that DayZ brought to the gaming community is one of the best and most fun i ever played! DayZ standalon - well that one we will have to wait for ARMA 3 release aren't we? EDIT 3: This link will take you to the Forum - More precisely a topic that acts as a Video Database for all videos and the lastest ones released! - http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?11913-The-War-Z-Video-Database

To be quite sincere, the only high tension experience on DayZ (SO FAR) are the same... 2-3 locations that everyone go for good stuff or bandits randomly shooting people just for fun. Sometimes not even cause of loot... I can see both games being realistic. WarZ will have a more fast paced style, while DayZ will keep the slow pace from Arma. They said that Guns and Ammo on WarZ are even more rare then in DayZ... One thing is right, WarZ IS being done based on DayZ experience, becuse they don't want to make it the same thing. There's several things that WarZ is MUCH more realistic then DayZ... A few of them: Can't be farmed for stuff, nor you will respawn at the SAME EXACT point when you relog or switch servers. So no exploiting... Zombies spawn on the whole map, not just near treestands and towns WHEN a player is nearby, nor they respawn infinitely in less then 5 minutes. Zombies only die with headshots. They might be put down with center mass shots but will get up eventually... Tactics, concealment and evasion is prt of both games, they are just seen from different perspectives. Also, Teamwork on DayZ is quite rare if you playing with strangers... There's no penalty for being a Bandit. *Edited* Almost forgot, Zombies on WarZ are more fun to play against... They aren't 'Sonic'. They walk/run faster then you can move and are lightly slower then you when running. Also their animations are more realistic. Some facts: Sprayers and Trigger Happy people will actually find themselves often in trouble for the lack of ammo and easier mobility of players. Also like i said before, Zombies need headshot to die. YES - I'm comparing to the current DayZ as NOT MUCH will change with Standalone release. If it does, AWESOME! Two good games. And theres several other minor things that are player preferences, in my cases, i like the fact of having the option to customize my character. I'll also check out DayZ standalone. If a mod can be that good, the standalone will be even better. But calling WarZ a 'MMO Cod Zombie' ish a bit harsh for a game that features quite a few stuff that DayZ has and does it better. Like construction, strongholds servers, farming, better character and map persistence etc. Both games will have something the other does not have. Currently WarZ in my opinion gives a better feeling to the Zombie Survival game... In DayZ after you learn how to sneak past the zombies(and since they just respawn when you're near a specific spot) Tactics and stuff are only meant to avoid getting sniper by a bandit sitting on a hill 600 meters away ad it's jsut too easy to snipe people cause of ARMA 2 Clunky mobility and the slow pace of the game ;p Also - I know that ALL videos of WarZ so far shows alot of guns and ammo... But that's ALPHA build guys! They showcasing the game and testing stuff... The beta and Final Version will have ajusted spawn rarity.

I'll try to record some gameplay when i get into the beta 31 october. Can't be certain though. Anyone going to play Alpha or Beta?

I have to admit, i would love to have a /few/ ARMA mechanics on WarZ. Can't think of many right now but one comes to my mind in specific... The 'Head Look' camera - Where you can hold your direction and look around without changing your stance. Also - For more info on the game, check FORUM or Facebook page!

I'm totally playing it! Anyone else? --- Be advised, Opinions bellow ---

Dunno if it's a bug, maybe your media is just uhmmm how to say it... 'dirty/scratched' Dind't had troubles with it in my Ps3.

Name's Peckham. I've been looking forward to join the Ordo Ranks for sometime now and finally i made it. I'm part of the Terra Division- Cohors B; Century 2, looking frward to work with all of you.