Kellervo Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 [10:26:48 AM] xxxxxxxx: http://img154.images...0/renderxc7.jpg - http://img69.imagesh...9/renderud3.jpg - http://theno0n3.word...ungs-br2famas3/ - The brand NEW! Uniquely made! Valycion FAMAS[10:27:51 AM] xxxxxxxx: http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/21040 - The brand NEW! Uniquely made! Valycion FAMAS[12:58:50 PM] Keller: ...ROFL[12:58:52 PM] Keller: REALLY?(for those whom haven't seen the Valcyion FAMAS, it is a direct rip off of the FAMAS in the links above) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krow Ames Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 wtf is happening. What's Valcyion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Afevis Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 that's VG's store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellervo Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Valcyion is Vanguard's store.The FAMAS is being sold commercially / for profit with no credit given to the original makers - DarkElfa and Schmung.Kelkith, Gutterblood, and 1000 are taking credit for it.This will not end well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Reisman Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 The only thing I saw in their NJ vendor was "Digi Donks." That's all I've seen them sell in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellervo Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 They just released the FAMAS today on the marketplace, I believe. I have a copy, so if you want to see first hand just ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krow Ames Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Word. This is Derp #2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorFox Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 This would seem to be Derp #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalitywolf firehawk Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 i saw it on the marketplace a few weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsume Xiao Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 [10:26:48 AM] xxxxxxxx: http://img154.images...0/renderxc7.jpg - http://img69.imagesh...9/renderud3.jpg - http://theno0n3.word...ungs-br2famas3/ - The brand NEW! Uniquely made! Valycion FAMAS[10:27:51 AM] xxxxxxxx: http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/21040 - The brand NEW! Uniquely made! Valycion FAMAS[12:58:50 PM] Keller: ...ROFL[12:58:52 PM] Keller: REALLY?(for those whom haven't seen the Valcyion FAMAS, it is a direct rip off of the FAMAS in the links above)In all fairness, that FAMAS variant is not an original design to the guys on FPSB. It was made for the movie Battle Royale 2. In this sense it is not a rip-off of the FPSB people.HOWEVER. If they just ganked that model and threw it on SL and added a few things, then yes it is if they are using that MESH, and is the exact kind of shit I was worried about when MESH came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Akiri Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 Talk to the dev heads, they confirmed that they had no idea this was going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorFox Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 In all fairness, that FAMAS variant is not an original design to the guys on FPSB. It was made for the movie Battle Royale 2. In this sense it is not a rip-off of the FPSB people.And their armor was originally from Jin-Roh: the Wolf Brigade.The design itself isn't the issue, it's the mesh. If VG had made their own very similar version, it wouldn't matter, but their taking of a mesh someone else made and uploading it as their own is what's against the TOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoza Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I just love how people can't invent their own designs, they're always inclined to infringe on others or copy RL. Just continually points out that I'll have to better protect my works, but also means I'll have a pretty secure job in the future. People tend to copy things they like, where I like to invent and design new things and experiment with new ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellervo Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 By signing up for and completing the mesh tutorial process, you basically sign an additional ToS with Linden Labs which means you can't even try to use them as a meatshield if you - unknowingly or knowingly - violate the mesh IP rights, or even the basic ToS itself.Now, the first time around, Christoph might've made a genuine bad. He might've paid some developer he never met or commissioned before - and has never uploaded anything to SL before and has no commercial presence whatsoever - hundreds or thousands of dollars donated by his devoted and loyal followers to make some new armor - even though in the past Kelkith and others with actual presences in SL have always made their gear with little to no issue - and the developer turned out to be a total fraud and uploaded someone else's work.Second time around, however, not only does this unknown developer rip off work from multiple people (the sights and attachments are not made by Gutter or Kelkith), Christoph takes it, a-oks it, and packs it up to sell as his own work. He hasn't just stepped into the IP minefield, he's purposely stepping on mines to see how long it takes before one of them explodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsume Xiao Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 And their armor was originally from Jin-Roh: the Wolf Brigade.The design itself isn't the issue, it's the mesh. If VG had made their own very similar version, it wouldn't matter, but their taking of a mesh someone else made and uploading it as their own is what's against the TOS.Please don't partial quote me. I already pointed this fact out in my first post.HOWEVER. If they just ganked that model and threw it on SL and added a few things, then yes it is if they are using that MESH, and is the exact kind of shit I was worried about when MESH came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoza Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) Ever hear the phrase "Have to hit the nail more then once to drive it into the board"? No? WELL I JUST MADE IT UP, but it's logical. Some people don't understand until you tell them several times, over and over, several different ways, from several different sources. The only time I've really encountered these kind of people, are those I worked with in.. supportive living homes however.. Edited December 7, 2011 by Xoza Tyron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krow Ames Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I can hit a nail once and drive it into a board, Xoza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellervo Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 This particular board is simply extremely dense. :lEDIT:Even now Christoph is apparently trying to brush this under the rug as "1000 said he got permission". Considering the development team themselves haven't been able to contact the head for nearly three months, and that the acting head has never been contacted about this, Chris just trying to cover his ass.Poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadmon Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) Its petrified Edited December 7, 2011 by Disembodied Hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krow Ames Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I'm just kidding. I take my time. I get to know the nail. I get to know his fears and his motivations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoza Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Ok.. is.. this is getting kinky? or.. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addison Setzer Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Gotta know what nail you're driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addison Setzer Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On a more serious note.... Chris is a Ffffing idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...