Munitorum Meeting - 19DEC09

[Anlysia Gregoire]

[16:08] Anlysia Gregoire: Okay there's actually people down there now so we can talk.

[16:09] Anlysia Gregoire: We'll make this quick since the base is kind of underpopulated.

[16:09] Vincent Lucerne: kay :O

[16:09] Anlysia Gregoire: First off, we may have some new projects coming down the pipe.

[16:10] Anlysia Gregoire: A possible handful of Alpha squad related stuff. A new weapon -- possibly a bow, or crossbow -- as well as a new possible HUD. More than that too, depending on things.

[16:11] Anlysia Gregoire: (They will have explosions.)

[16:11] Vincent Lucerne: lul..rambo.

[16:11] Anlysia Gregoire: Shh. ;P

[16:11] Anlysia Gregoire: Also...I dunno if y'all have seen. Tokeli has been doing some new logos that are pretty sexy. For Muni, Astra, and Terra.

[16:12] Anlysia Gregoire: I don't have all of them at present, and the one I do have is out of date a bit. But I'll show it off regardless.

[16:12] Sera Otoro: fishman still needs to make the model and name the rifle for invictus...

[16:12] Keller Teichmann: model is almost done. I'm just working on a few more touches, and getting it set up for absurdly high quality texture baking. c-c

[16:12] Anlysia Gregoire: He added a laurel to this one and replaced the skull with a cog, at my request.

[16:12] Vincent Lucerne: :D

[16:12] Anlysia Gregoire: There's also matching Terra/Astra ones in the same styling.

[16:13] Keller Teichmann: Yeah, the skull is a bit too cartoony.

[16:13] Keller Teichmann: but it looks good. :>

[16:13] Keller Teichmann cranks the chatlag in the head with a wrench. D<

[16:13] Sera Otoro: looks too creepy aswell, needs to look more badass than creepy...

[16:13] Anlysia Gregoire: (I'm trying to hurry a bit here due to undermannedness downstairs, before Aryte grumps at us.)

[16:13] Anlysia Gregoire: The skull on the Terra one is a more human-style skull, no fangs, etc.

[16:13] Anlysia Gregoire: Like I said I don't have them, yet. They're not finalized.

[16:15] Anlysia Gregoire: Haha.

[16:15] Anlysia Gregoire: Sera, how goes things on ze rescripting 80 different weapons? Haha.

[16:16] Vincent Lucerne: xD

[16:16] Sera Otoro: its coming along

[16:16] Sera Otoro: the holdback is my commercial side aswell

[16:16] Sera Otoro: but other than that... i have... *counts*

[16:16] Sera Otoro: 8 left to do

[16:17] Sera Otoro: 8 already done

[16:17] Vincent Lucerne: pink thing!

[16:17] Anlysia Gregoire: Alright, that's cool. Is the poor Astra MP5 getting done? :P

[16:17] Tokeli Zabelin: Ohgod did I accidentally arrive in time for a meeting or something.

[16:17] Tokeli Zabelin: Fuck.

[16:17] Anlysia Gregoire: Hey Tokeli.

[16:17] Scarlet Flaks: You're late.

[16:17] Sera Otoro: well it needs a model

[16:17] Anlysia Gregoire: Did you have the newer version of that Muni logo?

[16:17] FireFox Breed: accidentally

[16:17] Anlysia Gregoire: Well I meant the current one, Sera.

[16:17] Tokeli Zabelin: Yah.

[16:17] Anlysia Gregoire: It really needs an update. Haha.

[16:17] Sera Otoro: the scripting?

[16:17] Anlysia Gregoire: Yeah. That one's yours, isn't it?

[16:18] Sera Otoro: i havent gotten to the MP5 yet, thats one of the 8 remaining

[16:18] Vincent Lucerne: waffah :D

[16:18] Anlysia Gregoire: Cool. Astra will be excited to have a non-out-of-date sidearm. >.>

[16:18] Sera Otoro: ok, ill just list whats left

[16:18] Tokeli Zabelin: Is it a rifle?

[16:18] Tokeli Zabelin: ;o;

[16:18] Sera Otoro: both fulminata talons

[16:18] Sera Otoro: mp5k

[16:18] Sera Otoro: poena

[16:18] Sera Otoro: all powerswords and chainswords

[16:18] Sera Otoro: invictus xar9

[16:19] Sera Otoro: and the schola carbine

[16:24] Anlysia Gregoire: Alrighty...next up.

[16:24] Anlysia Gregoire: A couple of you have heard about this, but I've started a new job for Curia. :P Approving people to use custom-scripted weapons in Ordo. :P

[16:25] Anlysia Gregoire: This is exempt from people like Sera or Tsume who have blanket-approval for Ordo members to use their stuff. More along the lines of "I can script, I made this. Is it usable?"

[16:25] Anlysia Gregoire: I've written up a little guideline about it that I can share with people who are curious about it. I'm open to feedback on it, 'cause I don't ever consider anything I do complete.

[16:26] Anlysia Gregoire: It's basically a list of "You can do this and can't do that" in scripts.

[16:26] Keller Teichmann: I can give feedback on builds and the like, but that's aboot it. :F

[16:26] Anlysia Gregoire: The stuff on builds is pretty light. Basically "don't use 9001 prims covered in 1024x1024 textures".

[16:27] Anlysia Gregoire: Since these are custom items, I don't assume we'll see dozens of them around so the guidelines are a bit lighter than, say, ours.

[16:27] Keller Teichmann: I'll have to revise them a bit if/when LL finishes "SL 2.0".

[16:27] Keller Teichmann: Things will be ugly if they don't have clear limits on static meshes. c_c;

[16:28] Vincent Lucerne: dynamic shadows......mesh supportz....8Q____

[16:28] Scarlet Flaks: .obj meshes

[16:28] Scarlet Flaks: fap fap fap

[16:28] Tokeli Zabelin: Will probably have a 1024 vertice limit just like sculpties.

[16:28] Anlysia Gregoire: Just to make you :< Keller, Syl's like "I'm going to start doing meshes now because I'm bored of sculpts".

[16:28] Scarlet Flaks: Don't destroy my dreams tokeli.

[16:28] Tokeli Zabelin: They're not stupid enough to let random stupid fuckers upload billion-vertice things and rape everyone.

[16:29] Anlysia Gregoire: Oh, Tokeli...do you have the "complete" version of that Muni logo so's I can show people?

[16:29] Tokeli Zabelin: Uploading them now.

[16:29] Anlysia Gregoire: Awesome. Need more L for that?

[16:29] Tokeli Zabelin: Nuhp.

[16:29] Keller Teichmann: Well, from my understanding, if they implement the same limits on statics as they do as meshes... 1 or 2 prim guns would be quite feasible. :F

[16:29] Keller Teichmann: you can do a shitload with 1024 polygons.

[16:30] Anlysia Gregoire: BTW the Curia-gun-approving-thing I may be looking for an assistant on, because the duty may extend into doing them for the outside-weapon-requests too.

[16:30] Keller Teichmann: Liiiike... the 32 prim FN2000 I gave Ethan...

[16:31] Anlysia Gregoire: That's hot Toke.

[16:31] Anlysia Gregoire: Check it out, kids.

[16:31] Keller Teichmann: the polygon count for the model I converted into sculpts was 1500 or so. One static mesh, or two static meshes with a shitload of extra detail.

[16:31] Tokeli Zabelin: The small one is the logo without the words.

[16:31] Vincent Lucerne: awesome :D!

[16:31] Keller Teichmann: that is nice

[16:32] Anlysia Gregoire: Pending Imperator Wolfface approval, we'll probably have that to play with soon. ;P I'd like his go-ahead before we start handing anything out.

[16:32] Anlysia Gregoire: But everyone shower love and praise etc on Toke.

[16:33] Anlysia Gregoire: I briefly mentioned this earlier, but I'm going to come back to it for a sec...new projects. I'm not sure how much detail I can share because I don't know how public it is what's happening... (Waffle?) ...but this new stuff going through may be classed more "priority" than other stuff in the pipe. So pushing it through would be appreciated.

[16:33] Anlysia Gregoire: There'll be some work for everyone. A HUD needs a texturer. Weapons need a builder and a scripter, and animations...

[16:34] Anlysia Gregoire: It'll be a fun burst of work. "Fun". ;>

[16:34] Keller Teichmann: Fulmi's gear?

[16:34] Anlysia Gregoire: Yeah, I'm not sure how public that is yet.

[16:34] Anlysia Gregoire: Eh, it's in Zrazor's report for the week so I'll just say it.

[16:35] Keller Teichmann: No secret that they're looking for new gear. But even I have no idea wtf it is that they want exactly. c_c

[16:35] Anlysia Gregoire: Fulminata is doing a heavy restructure.

[16:35] Scientific Waffle: Ok, want me to shed some light on it?

[16:35] FireFox Breed: heavy is a key word

[16:35] Anlysia Gregoire: Waffle, you go head on it.

[16:35] Anlysia Gregoire: You know probably as much as anyone but FIreFox and I.

[16:35] Anlysia Gregoire: More than I mean.

[16:36] Scientific Waffle: Basically, based upon a history of unsatisfactory results... Fulminata's basically been told that they need to change or face having the entire squad disbanded and replaced.

[16:36] Scientific Waffle: Thus, Zrazor and Xayvien have been starting work on a plan to completely reinvigorate everything and change everything up...

[16:36] Scientific Waffle: Essentially...

[16:36] Vincent Lucerne is helping :D

[16:36] Scientific Waffle: They're clearing the squad. New name, new image, new purpose, new members...

[16:37] Sera Otoro: what of weapons...?

[16:37] Scientific Waffle: They're planning on pursuing, in terms of theme, a concept that is mixed explosives/stealth/commando.

[16:37] Scientific Waffle: Ideas like...

[16:37] Scientific Waffle: A crossbow that shoots proximity mines...

[16:37] Scientific Waffle: Trip mines...

[16:37] Scientific Waffle: Specialized C4...

[16:37] Tokeli Zabelin: AUTOCROSSBOW

[16:37] Scientific Waffle: And a unique uniform mod, similar to Invictus' new getup (which I'm in).

[16:38] Scientific Waffle: Basically the idea...

[16:38] Anlysia Gregoire: I amusingly considered convincing Zrazor to get a sticky launcher for the squad, from TF2.

[16:38] Keller Teichmann: (and me)

[16:38] Scientific Waffle: Is to "reopen" the squad, and market the new image heavily to the general enlisted to drum up excitement.

[16:38] Scientific Waffle: In this way, they hope to restart the squad with an entire new cadre of active members.

[16:38] Scientific Waffle: And thus, in the coming weeks, they're hoping to narrow down their list of requested equipment...

[16:39] Scientific Waffle: And get it developed as quickly as possible in preparation for the big opening.

[16:39] Scientific Waffle: Thus, Munitorium will be key in this effort.

[16:39] Scientific Waffle: Any.. questions? It's a bit up in the air at this point, but things are definitely moving.

[16:39] FireFox Breed: Also

[16:39] FireFox Breed: when it comes to terra and gear

[16:40] Keller Teichmann: If I can get something concrete, starting... Monday afternoon I'll have a two week gap before classes resume. Granted, 4 days I'll be without internet, but if they somehow have something by Tuesday, I could likely come back and hand it to them. Builds, at least.

[16:40] (COM): Cheeso Szydlowska: Why do I hear submarine dive alarms?

[16:40] Keller Teichmann: (because I get bored as -fuck- when I visit family.)

[16:40] (COM): Ron Bleac: We're evading depth charges, now be quiet or they'll pick us up on sonar.

[16:41] FireFox Breed: command members will be more involved with requesthing things. because i can feel the elite squads getting a overhaul

[16:41] Nadav Vaher is Offline

[16:41] FireFox Breed: might be big, might be small but they are all going to get looked at once again

[16:41] Williamca Zenovka has entered the sim.

[16:41] Williamca Zenovka is Online

[16:41] Anlysia Gregoire: Yes...I'm going to be discussing gear and specs personally with Zrazor and Xayvien, tomorrow.

[16:41] Mercury: New contact: Williamca Zenovka

[16:41] Anlysia Gregoire: After the officer meeting we're having a sitdown.

[16:41] FireFox Breed: but this wont happen till more pressing issues with them are fixed

[16:41] Keller Teichmann: Invic's already getting quite a boost. Unique uniform, 'barracks' in the space station, etc. I imagine Fulminata will follow along the same lines.

[16:42] Keller Teichmann: If Fulmi's got a silenced assault rifle or anything of the sort, I have a build of an AS VAL, which is exactly that. Could give it to them once it's retextured to not be so STALKERish.

[16:43] Sera Otoro: ill have hands on for scripting that ...

[16:43] Sera Otoro: if they do think about getting one

[16:44] Anlysia Gregoire: One of the concepts I was going over with Fulmi was a remote "mine HUD". That would let you lay down multiple individual mines and detonate them seperately.

[16:44] FireFox Breed: mm

[16:44] Anlysia Gregoire: And one of the features would be individual radar on each mine, to see who's around it.

[16:44] Vincent Lucerne: :D!

[16:44] Anlysia Gregoire: Not proximity mines, or land mines...but seperate and individually dettable mines.

[16:44] FireFox Breed: side comment

[16:45] Vincent Lucerne: awesome :D

[16:45] FireFox Breed: i do hope that things are not being held up because of model issues.

[16:46] Vincent Lucerne: you could rig up something similar to the jumpmaster HUD to do the mines with :O

[16:46] Anlysia Gregoire: Basically yes.

[16:46] Anlysia Gregoire: But my thought was to make them use shout not RegionSay (AKA 96m, not anywhere on the same sim) to avoid abuse slightly.

[16:47] Anlysia Gregoire: (Shout also works across sim borders.)

[16:47] Vincent Lucerne: :o

[16:47] Vincent Lucerne: o yeaaa

[16:47] Anlysia Gregoire: This is all details I'll be going over with Zrazor / Xayvien tomorrow.

[16:47] Keller Teichmann: Buuut... the lag of having multiple radars constantly going and feeding data to another script taking all of that information and displaying it all fancy like... I am a scripting neanderthal, and it sounds really, really ffffing laggy to me.

[16:47] FireFox Breed: OH

[16:47] FireFox Breed: if you need gobal grid data channels

[16:47] Syfte Stormcrow has entered the sim.

[16:47] FireFox Breed: i can do that fyi

[16:48] Anlysia Gregoire: Keller, the radar would be like...5m. Not 96m like our HUD.

[16:48] Keller Teichmann: alright.

[16:48] Anlysia Gregoire: Basically it would be "Who's in death range of this explosive?"

[16:48] Keller Teichmann: I just think it'd be difficult / unreliable in lag, but that's me. o3o;

[16:49] Anlysia Gregoire: It would work like this: When you rez the mine, it generates a random chat channel. That's the channel that you can use to talk to that mine only. Every [X] seconds it does a radar report like our HUD, and Shouts it over that channel. If you're within 96m, you'll get it. So you can see who's within death-range of the mine.

[16:50] Anlysia Gregoire: The idea is for them to be set in chokepoints on breakthroughs, so if we get pushed back we can clear them, again.

[16:50] Anlysia Gregoire: Basically utility items like this are an idea to make Fulminata members valuable on raids even in one or two. They bring something nobody else has.

[16:50] Anlysia Gregoire: Just like Drop Pods. Or Artillery we'll someday actually have, I totally mean it for sure.

[16:51] Vincent Lucerne: <_<

[16:51] Anlysia Gregoire: Alphas never deploy as whole squads, so they need to offer something unique even by themselves. But I'm off-topic and drifting into Terra policy here.

[16:51] Anlysia Gregoire: SUFFICE TO SAY:

[16:51] Anlysia Gregoire: New stuff. Needs scripts.

[16:51] Keller Teichmann: Wellll. Yeah, my thoughts would drift into Terra policy.

[16:51] Keller Teichmann: I'm already bugging xay. You can put me down for at least one of whatever they decide upon

[16:52] Anlysia Gregoire: Alrighty...next thing.

[16:52] Keller Teichmann: and there's quite a difference. BUT I DIGRESS BECAUSE I HAET HALO

[16:52] Anlysia Gregoire: I can't remember this second. While I'm thinking anyone else have something to bring up?

[16:53] Vincent Lucerne: HAO U GUIZ LIEK MAH STASHUN

[16:53] Keller Teichmann: I just have project updates / future project ideas. :F

[16:53] Scarlet Flaks: Um

[16:53] Scarlet Flaks: Riot gear is going smoothly with Tsume. The baton is pretty much finished.

[16:54] Anlysia Gregoire: Minus 500% damage.

[16:54] Scarlet Flaks: Well yeah.

[16:54] Tokeli Zabelin: Need riot helmet.

[16:54] Scarlet Flaks: Added a few tweaks to it after consulting Tsume. I don't know if it will be a unlock, or just given to everyone or what the deal will be but, it's pretty much finished. Need to bug him to do the shield next.

[16:55] Anlysia Gregoire: I think he hasn't figured out quite how yet. Havok 4 has left barricades well-on-buggered.

[16:55] Tokeli Zabelin: Could always just make it a cosmetic shield that doesn't really do aynthing extra.

[16:55] Scarlet Flaks: Well, I've tried to have a sit-down talk with him in my sim, and he doesn't seem to ever have the time to seriously sit and work with me on it, so ;c

[16:55] Scarlet Flaks: And no, It's not just an asthetic thing. It would've been a waste of my time to have simply made it to 'look pretty'.

[16:56] Anlysia Gregoire: I'll prod him.

[16:56] Anlysia Gregoire: It's the holidays so getting ahold of people is dicey at best.

[16:56] Scarlet Flaks: After I can get Tsume to sit with me for a bit, It'll hopefully be able to shield somewhat, have a bash that's hotkey/gesture activated, etc.

[16:56] Anlysia Gregoire: After the new year things'll probably pick up.

[16:56] Scarlet Flaks: And yeah, I'm aware.

[16:56] Sera Otoro: erm... hmm..

[16:56] Sera Otoro: feesh

[16:56] Vincent Lucerne: feeeesh

[16:57] Sera Otoro: want to redo the MP5K model...?

[16:57] Anlysia Gregoire: I need to talk to Sosarin about that. He may not want another MP5K.

[16:57] Keller Teichmann: I can add it to the list.

[16:57] Keller Teichmann: Whatever gun Sos or Aryte wants.

[16:57] Anlysia Gregoire: It's kind of his call, I suppose. Haha.

[16:57] Keller Teichmann: I really need shit to do while I'm gone. ;o;

[16:57] Scarlet Flaks: I might ask Tsume if he wants to have my MP5SD2 model, but I doubt you guys would want it. :n

[16:58] Anlysia Gregoire: TBH I'd like to reiterate, I want Fulminata's gear at the top of the list.

[16:58] Keller Teichmann: Whichever I get first, I'll work on first. :x

[16:58] Anlysia Gregoire: Getting a "replacement" for something is being Fulminata getting their shit together.

[16:58] Anlysia Gregoire: Er...that made no sense.

[16:58] Anlysia Gregoire: Is less important than.

[16:58] Keller Teichmann: No, it didn't.

[16:58] Scientific Waffle: lol

[16:58] Anlysia Gregoire: Sorry the usual ten things at once, etc.

[16:58] Scientific Waffle: Once we have a definitive list of gear from them, of couse.

[16:59] Anlysia Gregoire: I pretty much plotted out entirely how a sticky 'nade launcher from TF2 would work whilst in the shower today for giggles.

[16:59] Anlysia Gregoire: So I might push that at them. :P

[17:00] Anlysia Gregoire: Expect I'd say 2-3 weapons and a HUD.

[17:00] Anlysia Gregoire: Maybe a tripwire model, since Zrazor and Xayvien are big on that.

[17:00] Scientific Waffle: And perhaps a uniform mod.

[17:00] Vincent Lucerne: Yes

[17:00] Anlysia Gregoire: I think it's a bit overcomplicated and a landmine would suffice, but.

[17:00] Scientific Waffle: We'll see after Anly has talks with them.

[17:00] Vincent Lucerne: Z said they wanted to focus on long-range shooting alot as wel

[17:00] Vincent Lucerne: we discussed a shiny new sniper rifle perhaps

[17:01] Anlysia Gregoire: Yes, he wants sniper rifles and that's great and totally ineffectual in actual usage.

[17:01] Vincent Lucerne: and a uniform mod making the armor look a bit stealthier

[17:01] Tokeli Zabelin: Thank god someone other than me thinks that.

[17:01] Anlysia Gregoire: The SCAR-L is the best sniper rifle we have since it's full-auto and has no spread.

[17:01] Scarlet Flaks: ...

[17:01] Vincent Lucerne: fff

[17:01] Vincent Lucerne: hellgun.

[17:01] Vincent Lucerne: bish.

[17:01] Vincent Lucerne: :|

[17:01] Keller Teichmann: Hellgun, yeah

[17:02] Anlysia Gregoire: You understand my point, though. Since hypervelocity doesn't-work now, there's no point in specialized sniper equipment.

[17:02] Keller Teichmann: Larger clip and slightly slower rate of fire, so it doesn't reload every 1.5 seconds. :F

[17:02] Anlysia Gregoire: We can have them for prettyness' sake, but I think wasting a specialized gear slot on them is not worth the time.

[17:02] Vincent Lucerne: :p

[17:02] Scarlet Flaks: Clip...

[17:02] Scarlet Flaks: Snipers.. useless.

[17:02] Scarlet Flaks: oh you guys suck

[17:02] Keller Teichmann: Whatever.

[17:03] Keller Teichmann: BATTERY.

[17:03] Scarlet Flaks: I hope I'm being trolled right now.

[17:03] Anlysia Gregoire: Battery is probably more accurate.

[17:03] Sera Otoro: MP5K scripts redone...

[17:03] Sera Otoro: thats now at vo6

[17:03] Anlysia Gregoire: Awesome, Sera. Sosbat will possibly hug you. In an uncomfortable way.

[17:03] Heavy666 Bolden has entered the sim.

[17:03] Heavy666 Bolden is Online

[17:04] Anlysia Gregoire: Anyone else have project updates they'd like to share?

[17:05] Vincent Lucerne: I MADE ARMOR WIF NO SHOULDERZ

[17:05] Vincent Lucerne: ALSO

[17:05] Vincent Lucerne: WE GOT LIKE..

[17:05] Vincent Lucerne: 2 MORE TANKZ

* Cut out a long, long digression...anyone who was there knows what it was. :P *

[17:17] Anlysia Gregoire: Any more project updates so I can kick y'all out and eat dinner before the NEXT meeting I have before the two meetings tomorrow? :P

[17:17] Vincent Lucerne: ah yess!

[17:18] Vincent Lucerne: the construction of the new super moon battle station is beginning >:F

[17:18] Vincent Lucerne: *turn attention to hologram*

[17:18] Anlysia Gregoire: "Beginning"? We're sitting in it.

[17:18] Vincent Lucerne: no no

[17:18] Vincent Lucerne: A GIANT MOON

[17:18] Vincent Lucerne: BUT LIKE

[17:18] Vincent Lucerne: UM

[17:18] Keller Teichmann: the sim can not support Kanaki, I'm sorry.

[17:18] Vincent Lucerne: damn d:

[17:18] Vincent Lucerne: D:

[17:19] Vincent Lucerne: wait thats no moon.....its kanaki!

[17:19] Anlysia Gregoire: Alright if there's nothing serious, I'm going to go make myself dinner. :P

[17:19] Tokeli Zabelin: THAT'S NO MOON, THAT'S YOUR MOTHER.

[17:19] Keller Teichmann: Well, there's my stuff. But I'm just going to make a Munitorum thread for it because, well. c_c

[17:19] Anlysia Gregoire: Thanks for coming, childrens. Next meeting is the 2nd of January. Which may make it uh, interesting.

[17:19] Vincent Lucerne: xD;

[17:20] Anlysia Gregoire: Have a gewd Christmas / New Year / the Jewish thing I can't spell if it applies / Kwanzaa.