Ordo Euro Meeting - 24APR10

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Name/Rank/Division: Bargo Tomsen / E-2 Discens / Astra

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DATE: 24APR10

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SUBJECT: Imperator's meeting

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SUMMARY:

Imperator's meeting held at 1100hrs, to be more friendly time wise, to all those on European time zones.

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CHAT LOG:

[11:06:40] Aryte Vesperia: Good morning everyone. I will largely consider this to be a semi-formal gathering, so, feel free to speak and interject. Unlike the main meeting, I won't have you executed. The purpose of this gathering is, largely, to see and talk with folks I don't really get the pleasure of spending time with as much-- like Ron, Wolfgang, Sera, Jason, et cetera. All of you people with accents.

[11:06:59] Sera Otoro: ...

[11:07:36] Vinnie Lei: :|

[11:07:55] Aryte Vesperia: The session will be in a town hall style. What that means is you're welcome and encouraged to participate: speak up! I'm here to answer your questions and concerns. Let me start by throwing some questions out.

[11:08:03] Aryte Vesperia: Can't forget Vinnie.

[11:08:23] Vinnie Lei: I object, I don't have an accent. >:C

[11:08:34] Vinnie Lei: <3

[11:09:04] Aryte Vesperia: Now, first series of questions I have for you all: what're the major obstacles and problems you run into during your timezone? Is there anything in particular that needs to be addressed?

[11:09:16] Vinnie Lei raises hand :D

[11:09:20] Aryte Vesperia: Speak freely!

[11:09:21] Mercury: New contact: Aryte Vesperia

[11:09:23] Vinnie Lei: Estate managers for one :O

[11:09:29] Sera Otoro: EMs...

[11:09:50] Inoue Katsu: \o_

[11:09:58] Ron Bleac: I completely agree. We need an EM that is actually there during the earlier hours of European days.

[11:10:02] Aryte Vesperia: Between what hours is there a void?

[11:10:07] Sera Otoro: and late night combat which some of us with sensible sleeping patterns are unable to partake in...

[11:10:31] Ron Bleac: Either late night SLT, or 1-2 AM SLT.

[11:10:34] Sera Otoro: come to that later though, EM first...

[11:10:51] Aryte Vesperia: Notice any particular officers who are on that hour?

[11:10:54] Aryte Vesperia: Ex: Firefox?

[11:11:13] FireFox Breed: yea 0000-to 1200 is a issue

[11:11:15] Ron Bleac: Steff's probably one of the only ones, at least lately. Pardon me if I've missed someone.

[11:11:37] Inoue Katsu: I see steff online when im at work yea

[11:11:45] FireFox Breed: most of the ems are there but are only avab like 3-4 hours a day

[11:11:46] Inoue Katsu: depends on her schedule though

[11:11:48] Jason Backer: For the moment I am an EM and I am about on my PC in Euro times, I often have my laptop with me everywhere so if you need one you must drop me an offline. I cannot be present actively idling during the day as i'll likely be caught and docked pay. But if you offline me I can nip on quickly

[11:11:55] Havoc Sparta: She's usual one before I get off which is around 11 SLT

[11:12:35] WolfGang Senizen: Every time i show up in titan for a morning stint i meet steff so..

[11:12:42] Karlhockey Forte: I think there is a possiblity ems in general could get a look at

[11:12:55] Aryte Vesperia: I am also . . "on call" for those hours. I don't mind being woken up to come ban some person. But I can try to get another EM for those hours.

[11:13:15] Justice Capalini: i think steff would be an excellent EM for those hours

[11:13:40] Mercury: New contact: Jester Spearmann

[11:13:54] Aryte Vesperia: She was one for the longest of times. I'll see if that works.

[11:13:55] Inoue Katsu: I'm at work during quiet time except on weekends

[11:13:57] Mercury: New contact: Seb Yakan

[11:14:13] Sera Otoro: same...

[11:14:32] Mercury: Idletimeout has initiated OIC transfer for sleeping OIC.

[11:14:32] Sera Otoro: work monday - friday...

[11:14:49] Mercury: Declaring new OIC for Titan: Legate Justice Capalini.

[11:15:18] Justice Capalini: Imperator were you OIC?

[11:15:18] FireFox Breed: mostly i log in around 7 slt and no em is on for hours usualy in the weekdays

[11:15:24] Aryte Vesperia: Ok, cool then. I'll try to get another EM to hold that for you. (no Justice!)

[11:15:30] Justice Capalini: kk

[11:15:30] FireFox Breed: steff works like 12-14 hours a day who she works

[11:15:33] Bargo Tomsen: Keller was

[11:16:01] Aryte Vesperia: All right. The next problem you mentioned was raid participation?

[11:16:39] Sera Otoro: any large scale ones, yes

[11:16:48] Sykes Foxclaw: glk

[11:17:05] Aryte Vesperia: Well. Is that an Ordo problem, or the fact most militaries sleep in too? Are there raid opportunities?

[11:17:12] Ron Bleac: Something about that, that I'd like to mention. During European hours it's hard to even find defenders, and it's a near impossibility to find anyone for a raid, much less an officer willing to lead one. I'd totally take peeps out and all, but thing is there's like 6 people on base during normal European hours.

[11:17:13] Mercury: Lost contact: Jester Spearmann

[11:17:33] Justice Capalini: and 4 of them are usually sleeping

[11:17:36] Justice Capalini: ...

[11:17:39] Aryte Vesperia: Right, Ron. Out of curiousity: are there available targets?

[11:17:44] Vinnie Lei: Well, the largest raids are usually like on 5am localtime... I'm sure some big raids could be done at like 1200 slt?

[11:17:50] Jason Backer: Oops.

[11:17:54] Ron Bleac: Not much at all. Maybe 2142, since they have a lot of UK guys there.

[11:18:01] Ron Bleac: That's about it.

[11:18:02] Aryte Vesperia: Understood.

[11:18:10] FireFox Breed: yea 2142 is alot of uk

[11:18:11] Aryte Vesperia: We could try having a relationship with 2142 to spar, perhaps.

[11:18:27] Inoue Katsu: titan population gets as low as 1 defender during weekdays though

[11:18:28] Ron Bleac: If we can muster enough people to even spar, yes.

[11:18:41] Aryte Vesperia: Thaaaat will alleviate itself in about a week. Trust me.

[11:18:56] Ron Bleac: I certainly hope so.

[11:18:58] Inoue Katsu: school semesters overs ?

[11:19:00] Inoue Katsu: -s

[11:19:01] Aryte Vesperia: Yeap.

[11:19:10] Inoue Katsu: thought so :-)

[11:19:24] WolfGang Senizen: how about raids scheduled for around 1400 - 1600 hours slt or a little earlier?

[11:19:29] Aryte Vesperia: The period of late April to early May is always incredibly slow due to finals. But after that, well, big times.

[11:19:41] Aryte Vesperia: I am willing to host those on my days off, Wolfgang.

[11:19:43] WolfGang Senizen: seeing as that would be the closest overlap imo

[11:19:44] Sera Otoro: id be down with that...

[11:20:01] Ron Bleac: That's like, 4 or 5 AM for me I believe, unless I'm completely incorrect.

[11:20:08] Genostrike Sautereau: what days are u off Aryte?

[11:20:20] Aryte Vesperia: Varies, Genostrike.

[11:20:27] Genostrike Sautereau: okay thank u

[11:20:28] Mercury: Lost contact: Karlhockey Forte

[11:20:28] Ron Bleac: Excuse me, 2 to 3 AM.

[11:20:51] Justice Capalini: i stayed up pretty late last night

[11:21:00] Justice Capalini: i saw ron come on and sera

[11:21:03] Justice Capalini: then i logged off.

[11:21:21] Justice Capalini: but there werent many people awake or at the keyboard that much

[11:21:25] Justice Capalini: it was kinda irritating.

[11:21:27] Ron Bleac: Yeah.

[11:22:14] Justice Capalini: i dont know how many time we needa say this but people need to quit sleeping/going afk for long periods of time on the base

[11:22:21] FireFox Breed does not like leading raids so :<

[11:22:27] Aryte Vesperia: Hahaha, Justice.

[11:22:39] Mercury: New contact: Agares Tretiak

[11:22:43] Vinnie Lei: I will defend titan until I fall asleep, Justice >:C

[11:22:50] Karlhockey Forte is Online

[11:22:51] Justice Capalini: yeah it might make people think we have defenders but it will also by doing that cause them to attack when really we might only have two or three active people

[11:22:51] Sykes Foxclaw: Must... defend... titan...zzz

[11:22:57] Aryte Vesperia: So we'll try to remedy this complaint by holding . . more mid-dayish raids, whereas Ron can keep trying to find targets of opportunity in the early mornings.

[11:23:11] Aryte Vesperia: That's fine. I'll try to find an officer willing to pick up mid-day stuff while I am at work, too.

[11:23:25] Mercury: New contact: Karlhockey Forte

[11:23:36] Aryte Vesperia: What's next?

[11:24:09] Vinnie Lei: Ehhh.. you acknowledge the European Union and the UK's membership? 8D

[11:24:52] Aryte Vesperia: Wh--

[11:24:56] Aryte Vesperia: Oh, Diablos joke.

[11:25:06] Chris Peckham is Online

[11:25:07] FireFox Breed: for the queen

[11:25:12] Justice Capalini: YOU CAN DEMOTE ME.

[11:25:14] Intus Infinity: floats on air

[11:25:24] Aryte Vesperia: Nice.

[11:25:29] Inoue Katsu: lol

[11:25:35] Aryte Vesperia: Moving oooon.

[11:25:42] Sera Otoro: XD

[11:26:16] Ron Bleac: Well, something about muster calls for defenders, at least something I'd like to mention.

[11:26:22] Aryte Vesperia: Shoot.

[11:26:48] Mercury: Lost contact: Seb Yakan

[11:27:26] Ron Bleac: I've seen multiple people call out for defenders, several times within a few hours even, only to have people close the group chat on them and not say a word. I'm not expecting everyone to be here all day or anything, but it seems kind of discouraging.

[11:27:40] Ron Bleac: Especially when you find them fighting in New Jessie, several hours later.

[11:28:04] Justice Capalini agrees!

[11:28:34] Desereck Creeggan: II-204: Failure to act during muster calls (if not reasonably detained and preoccupied) will result in punishment.

[11:29:01] Aryte Vesperia: Mmmm.

[11:29:07] Ron Bleac: To be honest, I very least expect people to give a valid excuse, even if it's shitty.

[11:29:12] Sera Otoro: agreed...

[11:29:21] Mercury: New contact: Scientific Waffle

[11:29:23] Aryte Vesperia: Document it for me. I can pursue that.

[11:29:25] Steeltael Lykin: What would be valid really? what is the dfinition of Reasonably detained?

[11:29:34] Aryte Vesperia: Just make sure you note "when."

[11:29:43] Aryte Vesperia: Well. Reasonably detained being . . most preoccupations.

[11:29:50] Sera Otoro: many times have i opened group chat to call for defenders, roughly 50% of those in the group chat just leave without waying a word...

[11:29:53] Aryte Vesperia: Reasonably detained is not "I am in New Jessie."

[11:29:58] Aryte Vesperia: Or. "I am hanging out in Badnarik."

[11:30:09] Mercury: Lost contact: Scientific Waffle

[11:31:33] Aryte Vesperia: Really comes down to a matter of "how recognized do you want to be? :D"

[11:31:44] Ron Bleac: That's another thing, actually.

[11:32:00] Aryte Vesperia: Shoot.

[11:32:25] Drasamax Python is Offline

[11:32:42] Sera Kochav is Online

[11:32:54] Ron Bleac: A select amount of people on those muster calls, I suspect, only show up when you're around. Which is cool, nothing we can do about that.

[11:34:03] Ron Bleac: As a soldier, we're all expected to perform under especially dire circumstance, sometimes you're just shit out of luck, but I mean, hey come on.. they could at least try.

[11:34:36] Karlhockey Forte is Offline

[11:34:48] Mercury: Lost contact: Karlhockey Forte

[11:34:53] Aryte Vesperia: That's not uncommon. There's a couple reasons behind that. One being the perception that only fun things, like raids, happen when I'm awake. As you know, that's not true anymore (if ever, really). The other being the want to look good for the boss.

[11:35:00] Aryte Vesperia: I can address that. Or attempt to, rather.

[11:35:07] Ron Bleac: The latter is probably the case.

[11:35:28] Ron Bleac: It's hard to get a "yes" out of people when you're not around.

[11:36:38] Aryte Vesperia: Hopefulllly, as Agares noted, we'll be able to influence that with the Guard.

[11:36:42] WolfGang Senizen: could we possibly during low ammounts of defenders have a slightly more relaxed attitude to what is allowed on the frontline in order to maybe get poeple in who think that it wont be @fun@

[11:36:49] WolfGang Senizen: "fun"

[11:36:57] WolfGang Senizen: hate keyboard layout changes

[11:37:10] Ron Bleac: Things are pretty relaxed as it is, during low time.

[11:37:18] Ron Bleac: Maybe a bit too much, even.

[11:37:30] Kryo Recreant: By that same token, though, offensive deployments during the daytime hours are scuppered even when we have enough defenders.

[11:37:31] WolfGang Senizen: depends who's oic i suppose

[11:37:34] Aryte Vesperia: Ron even serves icecream.

[11:37:46] WolfGang Senizen: :3

[11:37:50] Desereck Creeggan gets on at 1:00AM just to get icecream.

[11:37:56] Ron Bleac: Yeah, think about it. I go through all that work getting ice cream, which has to be airdropped, and then no-one comes to get it.

[11:37:59] Bargo Tomsen: I would agree with Ron, I'm not sure how much more relaxed you can get, than current.

[11:38:10] Drasamax Python is Online

[11:38:25] Steeltael Lykin: Ron, you need cookies to go with it

[11:38:28] Steeltael Lykin: then nobody can resist

[11:38:43] Aryte Vesperia: Too bad it isn't WoW, then I could just promise late night people more EXP.

[11:38:58] Agares Tretiak: There's a difference between relaxed and anarchy. As long as there isn't anarchy and a break down of order...

[11:39:28] Jason Backer: I think certainly at this point in time there is no "model" group of people to act as a base for people to understand and recognise how to act and be a valuable member of the group.

[11:39:41] Bargo Tomsen: Time spent on base could equal, extra quality points, maybe, I'm not sure if that would be that great of an idea.

[11:40:03] Steeltael Lykin: people would almost certainly idle to collect points

[11:40:08] Ron Bleac: Bargo, that's a great idea, but that's easily circumvented by just leaving your avatar away from keyboard in the base.

[11:40:09] Aryte Vesperia: It's a good idea in theory, Bargo, but VG does it. And if you look at VG's base, you'll notice everyone idling in one corner.

[11:40:10] Desereck Creeggan: That... would be dangerously close to being Vanguard Bargo.

[11:40:13] Desereck Creeggan: Yeah.

[11:40:14] Steeltael Lykin: you'd have to police them to ensure they arent

[11:40:28] Genostrike Sautereau: But VG also has afk checks

[11:40:31] Bargo Tomsen: Well, could work like the OIC time out

[11:40:37] Genostrike Sautereau: whitch will completly Null them from it if they are idle

[11:40:48] Ron Bleac: We do that all the time, but only 2 people respond.

[11:41:08] Aryte Vesperia: Still, I was more of joking. I really do not want to give "experience" for doing something you already should be doing-- participating.

[11:41:15] Bargo Tomsen: True

[11:41:24] Kryo Recreant: Work is its own reward. :B

[11:41:34] Mercury: New contact: Stealth Meiji

[11:41:48] Desereck Creeggan: I've stayed up until 3:00 AM to be OIC because I couldn't get anyone else to pass it to. I do not expect to be rewarded for doing it because I see it as my duty.

[11:41:55] Aryte Vesperia: We could, however, make it more of a reward function that if someone in the early hours is noted going out of their way, to give them some props.

[11:42:39] Mercury: Lost contact: Dragon Massiel

[11:42:41] Aryte Vesperia: Orrrr . .

[11:42:49] Aryte Vesperia: Recruit more people from Europe. ^_^

[11:42:57] WolfGang Senizen: how many "offensive actions are there ussually that europeans can easily (in a regular time do)

[11:43:06] Aryte Vesperia: Well. Varies, really.

[11:43:06] Desereck Creeggan: * NUDGE NUDGE* EUROPE PEOPLE

[11:43:08] Agares Tretiak: That sounds entirely reasonable, sir. How many EU officers do we have that actively show up?

[11:43:14] Genostrike Sautereau: Is the sim on access?

[11:43:18] Aryte Vesperia: (Yes.)

[11:43:35] Aryte Vesperia: In my timezone of operation, you can plot it out-- I pledge at least 7 raids under my watch.

[11:43:48] Aryte Vesperia: In the early hours, it's whenever an authorized leader can or wants to.

[11:43:54] Aryte Vesperia: For example. Ron.

[11:43:58] Kryo Recreant: Depends on who's volunteered to lead a raid. We don't have enough people around during EU-friendly hours. When we do, the OIC tends towards caution and won't let raids out.

[11:44:15] Ron Bleac: That's just it, I don't have enough people to kill others with, and I don't have enough people to kill when I do.

[11:44:32] Ron Bleac: If I had the resources, I'd be out there 24/7.

[11:44:35] Mercury: New contact: Sania Werefox

[11:44:37] Ron Bleac: But I don't.

[11:44:42] Aryte Vesperia nods.

[11:44:51] Desereck Creeggan: The problem is. When there's an EU officer who is capable of leading raids, there's not enough people to support the raid to remain on defense, or to send a team out even.

[11:44:51] Justice Capalini: if you take the ones that is avaiable to kill then that leaves the base pretty unguarded it would seem.

[11:45:02] Aryte Vesperia: Could perhaps try "scheduling" raids a few days in advance.

[11:45:07] Desereck Creeggan: Exactly Justice.

[11:45:11] Aryte Vesperia: To give people the opportunity to make arrangements.

[11:45:50] Ron Bleac: I could try that, but I have my doubts as to how well it would work, really.

[11:45:57] Steeltael Lykin: There is also the problem of available targets let's not forget that

[11:45:58] Jason Backer: A idea that worked for me was a "Friday Fight Night" where we'd have a large attack at the largest forces we could. I suppose if it was planned Ordo could hit multiple enemies at the same time which would be awesome.

[11:46:38] Kryo Recreant: A cap on the size of the raid team could work, during the day. I've been raiding at 4am SLT before now, in a team of four. It was brilliant and there were enough people left on Titan to defend.

[11:46:44] WolfGang Senizen: for instance we could replace some of the points attained by offensive actions in a review for a soldier with time spent onbase

[11:46:51] WolfGang Senizen: damn thats some bad chat lag

[11:47:07] WolfGang Senizen: gonna have to piece together what i said sorry

[11:47:43] Blaze Wiles: I've done some checking

[11:47:45] WolfGang Senizen: if for their time zone raids are in short supply

[11:48:15] Blaze Wiles: in the very early hours our targets strength and therfor our deployablr

[11:48:27] WolfGang Senizen: *appologies but i must take my leave*

[11:48:29] WolfGang Senizen salutes

[11:48:58] Blaze Wiles: in the verdeployable forces within reason is 5 or less

[11:49:00] Aryte Vesperia: Bye Wolfgang!

[11:49:48] Blaze Wiles: (this new keyboard layout is going to take some getting used to x.x)

[11:50:50] Ron Bleac: You know, I just had an idea.

[11:50:56] Aryte Vesperia: Oh?

[11:51:24] Mercury: New contact: Keno Pontoppidan

[11:51:27] Mercury: Lost contact: WolfGang Senizen

[11:52:10] Ron Bleac: Yeah. The Merczateers, they usually have some people around base at relatively early European times. Badnarik is closed right now, but would it be feasible to, for example, ask some Mercz to join up in the fight if their high command would accept the suggestion? We rarely, if ever, deploy together with our Mercz buddies.

[11:52:24] Ron Bleac: When Badnarik opens, that is.

[11:52:37] Bargo Tomsen: Allied Operations, that sounds awesome

[11:53:12] Aryte Vesperia: That's entirely OK.

[11:53:31] Ron Bleac: That's great.

[11:54:45] Aryte Vesperia: What ellllse?

[11:54:58] Ron Bleac: Nothing from me.

[11:55:23] Aryte Vesperia: Anyone else want to add anything?

[11:55:26] Mercury: New contact: ZeroNightmare Kaventipovic

[11:55:28] Bargo Tomsen: Sir, I know we touched on this last night, but when you are able to get the corrected Predator, getting it in the vendor would help Asrta greatly.

[11:55:40] Bargo Tomsen: Astra*

[11:55:42] Aryte Vesperia: I sure will. I left Ethan a message about it.

[11:55:49] Bargo Tomsen: Thank you sir.

[11:56:03] Kryo Recreant: Is recruitment a good thing to talk about, given that Agares brought it up earlier?

[11:56:50] Aryte Vesperia: Sure!

[11:58:11] Aryte Vesperia: What about it, exactly?

[11:58:14] Kryo Recreant: Have we given any thought to openly recruiting recently, say in New Jessie or similar places? Rather than relying on word of mouth and SLH picks alone.. c.c

[11:58:58] Aryte Vesperia: Not specifically, that I am aware of. But I am open to it. More of a matter of how and who is willing to do it.

[11:59:52] Kryo Recreant: Mainland expeditionary force would be cool, were it not for the risk of stuff being copybotted.

[12:00:18] Aryte Vesperia: True. And really . . eh, we're probably more at a risk of being botted in NJ, then just wandering.

[12:01:17] Ron Bleac: It would be pretty cool to walk around NJ, up to completely random people, and go "You ever done anythin' useful with your Second Life, son? Join the Ordo, travel the grid, meet new and interesting people!"

[12:01:41] Blaze Wiles: we've gone on unofficial exploritory experditions before in the old decomissioned gear, not sure how effective they where.

[12:01:42] Bargo Tomsen: And kill them in new and innovative ways!

[12:02:00] Bargo Tomsen: (sorry, couldn't resist*

[12:02:03] Aryte Vesperia: Haha, the opportunity to just run around and . .

[12:02:10] Aryte Vesperia: See the other 99.9% of the grid.

[12:02:13] Aryte Vesperia: Would be fun.

[12:02:35] Bargo Tomsen: Do we have a recruiter program?

[12:02:47] Aryte Vesperia: In what way?

[12:03:20] Bargo Tomsen: I thought I saw a merit or something for recruiting, I wasn't sure if there was dedicated recruiters, or how you had it setup?

[12:03:55] Aryte Vesperia: Recruitment merit is "I forced my friend to join and they passed training! :D" sorta.

[12:04:01] Bargo Tomsen: HAHA

[12:04:02] Bargo Tomsen: ok

[12:04:09] Aryte Vesperia: Recruiters in Schola are the folks who sit there and make sure your app doesn't suck.

[12:05:00] Agares Tretiak: (Or that in turn, you don't suck, either Or kick you up to Curia, who really makes sure you don't suck.)

[12:05:09] Bargo Tomsen: We could consider a recruiter Program, like the RL militaries have, people designated as recruiters, specific title, autherozations, etc

[12:05:18] Justice Capalini: curia does not like teh suck

[12:05:31] Aryte Vesperia: .. Hmm.

[12:05:35] Aryte Vesperia: We could do that.

[12:05:50] Stealth Meiji: hmm have to head out again, what I get for showing up at 3pm my time >.> and ill miss the meeting again tonight because of work

[12:05:58] Aryte Vesperia: Bye Stealth!

[12:06:01] Ron Bleac: Put up a little station at NJ with some underpaid dude telling you about how much Ordo rocks.

[12:06:02] Jason Backer: Bye

[12:06:04] Agares Tretiak: I'd be all for it, provided they're comprised of observant folks who won't make promises of someone getting in.

[12:06:14] Stealth Meiji: see ya

[12:06:17] Stealth Meiji salutes!

[12:06:21] Aryte Vesperia: Amen Ron.

[12:06:28] Kryo Recreant: Question is, do we have enough people blessed with the power of schmoozing an a knack for sorting wheat from chaff?

[12:06:44] Aryte Vesperia: Well yeah.

[12:06:44] Mercury: Lost contact: Stealth Meiji

[12:06:46] Aryte Vesperia: I think we do.

[12:06:57] Aryte Vesperia: Like Kryo.

[12:07:14] Kryo Recreant: Just because I dragged Arokh along, sir. :|

[12:07:15] Agares Tretiak: Tiridates! he could do it. By killing thier pets and then nailing them to thier front doors with notes like "Join Ordo! Please. Or we kill the other cat. :D"

[12:07:15] Justice Capalini (Channel 1): r

[12:07:31] Aryte Vesperia: I'm going to go with a 'no' on that.

[12:07:47] Aryte Vesperia: But yeah, we can definitely try some proactive recruitment.

[12:07:52] Aryte Vesperia: Let's go raid a British nightclub.

[12:07:55] Aryte Vesperia: And give them all apps.

[12:07:55] Bargo Tomsen: To me, for for example, just random Ordo members recruiting can get hectic and confusing, Someone actually designated as a recruiter, would be able to answer Organiztion specific questions, pass out information, and be able to do on the spot simple Application reviews, to give realistic expectations.

[12:08:24] ZeroNightmare Kaventipovic: Ready to purge :O!

[12:08:31] Aryte Vesperia: I agree, Bargo. The "recruiter" role can be expanded to fit that.

[12:08:33] Ron Bleac: An easier way to recruit, that doesn't require much manpower, would be to release a series of videos detailing how awesome Ordo gets sometimes, kind of like what is displayed on our webpage. You know, kind of like "Join the army. Be the cool kid on the block" kind of thing.

[12:08:57] Bargo Tomsen: Alright, and Ron's idea is very interesting as well.

[12:09:02] thatguy Andel: Basically like Ordo propaganda?

[12:09:07] Ron Bleac: Basically.

[12:09:08] thatguy Andel: Because, to be honest, that would be pretty cool.

[12:09:12] Agares Tretiak: We do need some more propaganda...

[12:09:13] Aryte Vesperia: New videos would be awesome.

[12:09:22] thatguy Andel: As well as new posters.

[12:09:26] Ron Bleac: If you've ever seen the Propaganda videos on the Starship Troopers movies, you know what I'm talking about.

[12:09:33] Agares Tretiak: Posters are part of any good propaganda.

[12:09:34] Mercury: New contact: Marc Gravois

[12:09:41] thatguy Andel nods.

[12:09:41] Justice Capalini: or we could get that little emblem of the man that pisses on other brandnames and haave him wear an ordo cross on his back and have him pissing on all the other militaries lmao...

[12:09:46] Mercury: Lost contact: Keno Pontoppidan

[12:09:47] Bargo Tomsen: Have people give honest testimonials, as to why they joined Ordo, what they think of it, etc.

[12:09:50] Mercury: Lost contact: ZeroNightmare Kaventipovic

[12:09:55] thatguy Andel: We could go to some random sims and place posters with the link to our website.

[12:10:05] Aryte Vesperia: Well.

[12:10:05] thatguy Andel: Getting our name out in the 'normal' comunity.

[12:10:07] Aryte Vesperia: Let's not vandalize.

[12:10:08] Aryte Vesperia: Lol.

[12:10:09] thatguy Andel: community*

[12:10:16] thatguy Andel: Lol, well, with permission.

[12:10:17] Ron Bleac: Go tag with that prim spray paint

[12:10:20] Ron Bleac: "ORDO WAS HERE"

[12:10:23] Vinnie Lei lowers his baseball bat

[12:10:26] Bargo Tomsen: lol Ron

[12:10:42] Ron Bleac: Seriously though, a new series of videos detailing combat action and every day Second Life in the Ordo would be pretty good.

[12:10:54] Agares Tretiak: "Meet the Praetorian Guard"

[12:10:54] Ron Bleac: Machinimas in SL are immensely popular.

[12:11:00] Kryo Recreant: More non-furs necessary. Too many people have polarised opinions of Ordo and the avatar species filling its ranks.

[12:11:09] Aryte Vesperia: I agree.

[12:11:09] thatguy Andel: There's an idea, Agares.

[12:11:11] Aryte Vesperia: And I agree

[12:11:12] Aryte Vesperia: ..

[12:11:17] thatguy Andel: "Met the" videos.

[12:11:20] thatguy Andel: Meet*

[12:11:26] Marc Gravois: LOL

[12:11:26] Aryte Vesperia: But now we need someone epic to do the directing / taping.

[12:11:44] thatguy Andel: We need

[12:11:48] thatguy Andel: George Lucus.

[12:11:54] Ron Bleac: Doesn't need to be anything special, really. A simple charge sequence can do a hell of a lot, give a bunch of dummies the bayonet etc and film it, throw in some color correction and great music and bang.

[12:11:58] Bargo Tomsen: That Speiberg guy!

[12:12:08] Bargo Tomsen: Speilberg*

[12:12:10] thatguy Andel: But really, I have a few friends that do machinimas that I could get a hold of.

[12:12:24] Justice Capalini: i would've said quiten tarentino lol or john woo

[12:12:56] Aryte Vesperia: Haha.

[12:12:58] Agares Tretiak: I don't have adobe aftereffects, but I do have a few ideas kicking around in my head. I'd need ot hook up with an experienced person, to make sure it was all polished, but...

[12:13:16] Aryte Vesperia: I believe Devastator is pretty handy with it.

[12:13:45] Agares Tretiak: I'll see if I can coerce him into being on SL long enough to help out with a project like that.

[12:13:52] Intus Infinity: George Lucas has been horrible lately.

[12:13:55] Aryte Vesperia: I'm sure he'd be willing to.

[12:13:55] Kryo Recreant: "Meet the" videos may even lead to a parody along the lines of "Meet The Frumentarii", and parody can be twisted to work in our favour. Haha.

[12:13:58] Intus Infinity: Let's do Wingnut Films

[12:14:14] Agares Tretiak: "HAs anyone seen a red spy?"

[12:14:21] Vinnie Lei: Spycheck!

[12:14:26] Ron Bleac: "Meet the Frumentarii", a 30 second video clip of Tiridates banging someone's head into a wall, shouting "CONFESS YOUR CRIMES, HERETIC"

[12:14:36] Jason Backer: I'm an Ordo

[12:14:39] Jason Backer: And i'm a VG

[12:14:42] Kryo Recreant: ...

[12:14:43] Aryte Vesperia: Oh god.

[12:14:45] Marc Gravois: LOL

[12:14:46] Kryo Recreant: OH JASON

[12:14:47] Intus Infinity: lol.

[12:14:50] Aryte Vesperia: Oh god.

[12:14:56] Aryte Vesperia: That.

[12:14:59] Keller Teichmann: "Meet the Curia", a clip of Backer with a flamethrower.

[12:15:03] Agares Tretiak: Actually, Tiri came up with a creepy Frumentarii video idea...Ah well.

[12:15:13] Jason Backer: YES. FURRIES. BURN.

[12:15:20] Aryte Vesperia facepalms.

[12:15:25] Aryte Vesperia: So more videos. Yes.

[12:15:26] Keller Teichmann: And Heather showing up at the end of the video, calling him his middle name.

[12:15:30] Aryte Vesperia: ..

[12:15:31] Aryte Vesperia: Hahahhaa.

[12:15:34] Jason Backer: Wat.

[12:15:36] Bargo Tomsen: XD

[12:15:37] Aryte Vesperia: JASON MANUEL BACKER.

[12:15:52] Jason Backer: oh so i've been given a middle name, nobody told me

[12:16:03] Keller Teichmann: I thought it was Gibson

[12:16:07] Aryte Vesperia: ..

[12:16:08] Aryte Vesperia: Hahahaha.

[12:16:16] Ron Bleac: Trinity gave me a middle name.

[12:16:25] Ron Bleac: It's "Maximillian"

[12:16:25] Aryte Vesperia: Videos. Yes.

[12:16:26] Aryte Vesperia: Anything else?

[12:16:30] Agares Tretiak: Praetorians = Heavy? "Deploying one Praetorian costs the enemy 42,000 conscripts in a single attack." *leans forward and examines his tabard and gasps in horror* WHO TOUCHED MY TABARD?"

[12:16:53] Agares Tretiak: Err.

[12:16:57] Aryte Vesperia: TF2 Memes </3

[12:17:00] Agares Tretiak: Morris dancers.

[12:17:01] Sera Otoro: already wiped out the entire black mamba attack in a single sweep earlier...

[12:17:10] Kryo Recreant: I do like the idea of Morris Dancers.

[12:17:15] Sera Otoro: ... NO

[12:17:17] Bargo Tomsen: LOL

[12:17:19] Agares Tretiak: YES

[12:17:22] Vinnie Lei: Walking around other sims if not in old gear sounded pretty cool for indirect recruiting... we face copybotting anyway every day and I'm sure everyone know when or when not to wear our awesome++ outfits.

[12:17:23] Agares Tretiak: MORRIS DANCERS

[12:17:54] Agares Tretiak:

[12:17:55] Aryte Vesperia: Only if you dress like them.

[12:18:04] Kryo Recreant: Gladius for formalwear as standard issue to commanders.

[12:18:14] Agares Tretiak: Haha.

[12:18:19] Bargo Tomsen: Agares, that's disturbing

[12:18:21] Marc Gravois: are those like male cheerleaders or something?

[12:18:34] Aryte Vesperia: e

[12:18:35] Agares Tretiak: No.

[12:18:36] Aryte Vesperia: Lol.

[12:18:51] Aryte Vesperia: They look like they should be leading a Pride parade.

[12:18:52] Aryte Vesperia: But.

[12:18:55] Aryte Vesperia: Anyways.

[12:19:04] Agares Tretiak: They bang sticks together in an ancient fertility dance, essentially. YOu go figure out what the sticks resemble and WHY they're being banged together.

[12:19:12] Aryte Vesperia: ...

[12:19:15] Intus Infinity: o_o

[12:19:16] Bargo Tomsen: Lawls

[12:19:24] Justice Capalini: wow

[12:19:24] Aryte Vesperia: Moving on.

[12:19:35] Aryte Vesperia: Anything else?

[12:19:47] Jason Backer: William Shatner.

[12:19:56] Aryte Vesperia: Anything serious?

[12:20:11] Bargo Tomsen: Plans to make Chronus a full sim, is that a set in stone thing?

[12:20:11] Marc Gravois: military parades :o?

[12:20:34] Aryte Vesperia: Funding is the issue, Bargo.

[12:20:50] Jason Backer: I had something.

[12:21:02] Aryte Vesperia: Considering giving single sim combat a try, then let people decide whether or not they want to keep Chronus.

[12:21:12] Bargo Tomsen: I see, alright.

[12:21:31] Aryte Vesperia: Manuel?

[12:21:35] Kryo Recreant: Still considering one of those big sims?

[12:21:48] Aryte Vesperia: If even possible, Kryo.

[12:21:58] Mercury: Lost contact: Marc Gravois

[12:21:59] Aryte Vesperia: Jason, go ahead.

[12:22:02] Kryo Recreant crosses his fingers...

[12:23:11] Desereck Creeggan is Offline

[12:23:12] Jason Backer: Perhaps a little reconfiguration of the front line. Perhaps something a little more obviously defensive such as trenches? 40k Style?

[12:23:19] Mercury: Lost contact: Desereck Creeggan

[12:23:27] Aryte Vesperia: Yeah, I'm down with that.

[12:23:29] Jason Backer: At the moment all we have is people standing on the barridcades and then adding a barricade on top

[12:23:36] Jason Backer: From the HUD.

[12:23:39] Aryte Vesperia: Lol, yes.

[12:23:56] Jason Backer: http://homepage.mac....ia/IMG_3338.jpg

[12:23:57] Aryte Vesperia: We could stand for some "battle wear."

[12:23:58] Ron Bleac: A trench line would be pretty awesome, perhaps if we broke up the stone surface and got out the shovels, that'd be pretty cool.

[12:24:02] Jason Backer: A bit like that would be nice.

[12:24:10] Mercury: New contact: Marc Gravois

[12:24:15] Aryte Vesperia: I agree.

[12:24:17] Bargo Tomsen: That's pretty cool looking

[12:24:20] Ron Bleac: Have a second trench line on this side of the river, and charge over. That'd be pretty cool too.

[12:24:31] Inoue Katsu: that looks like the titan we once had

[12:24:41] Inoue Katsu: with trenches and tunnels

[12:24:53] Inoue Katsu: where iron man came to attack and sucked ass and put it on youtube anyways

[12:25:02] Bargo Tomsen: xD

[12:25:06] Vinnie Lei: and all that's then left is a big ship in the sky with bombs :p

[12:25:41] Agares Tretiak: No Space ships in the sky,please. VV was a travesty. :(

[12:26:01] Sera Otoro: it was a legend

[12:26:06] Bargo Tomsen: New Jessie did that, with ship and nukes, great way it was to kill the sim

[12:26:07] Aryte Vesperia: Indeedly do.

[12:26:17] FireFox Breed: i have a headake

[12:26:18] FireFox Breed: @.@

[12:26:19] Aryte Vesperia: All righty. Anything else?

[12:26:30] Blaze Wiles: well since there is a large concentration of european based people in one room I'd like to bring up Operation Brum if we're done with other topics.

[12:26:49] Aryte Vesperia: Aye?

[12:27:01] Sera Otoro: big euro ordo meet up...

[12:27:32] FireFox Breed is Offline

[12:28:06] Mercury: Lost contact: FireFox Breed

[12:28:14] Genostrike Sautereau: 0.

[12:28:20] Genostrike Sautereau: oops

[12:28:32] Whiskersnout Watanabe is Offline

[12:28:36] Blaze Wiles: it's been stoping and starting for a year or so now, if it's to go anywhere I was wondering first off who would be actually interested in meeting up (presumably in birmingham but not set in stone) and second what people might like to do.

[12:29:13] Ron Bleac: Airsoft, paintball, out in the woods for 2 days, sleeping bags, tents and that jazz. That'd be pretty awesome.

[12:29:28] Kryo Recreant: I would be up for it, as would Arokh. Paintball also appeals.

[12:29:42] Sera Otoro: prefer airsofting...

[12:30:00] Kryo Recreant: Never been airsofting.

[12:30:04] Vinnie Lei: I'd be delighted, if I'd have enough money in savings after AC.

[12:30:37] Blaze Wiles: Airsoft was one thing I was thinking off my last paintball trip left me £200 out of pocket, if there is enought interest I was willing to look into renting a site

[12:31:21] Kryo Recreant: :D

[12:31:43] Ron Bleac: I'd be down for that

[12:32:03] Aryte Vesperia: \o/

[12:32:12] Vinnie Lei: Who's gonna kidnap Aryte?

[12:32:17] Aryte Vesperia: Lol.

[12:32:27] Kryo Recreant: I'll try winning the lottery and see what happens

[12:32:29] Inoue Katsu: me

[12:32:36] Vinnie Lei: I could save up some extra space in my luggage when I go back to europe >.>

[12:32:41] Inoue Katsu: when is AC anyways

[12:32:48] Vinnie Lei: 24-27th of june

[12:32:59] Inoue Katsu: rly ? thats actually when i have vacation >.>

[12:33:02] Mercury: Lost contact: Sania Werefox

[12:33:07] Aryte Vesperia: Good. Defend Titan.

[12:33:09] Intus Infinity: LOL

[12:33:11] Inoue Katsu: lol

[12:33:15] Vinnie Lei: XD

[12:33:37] Aryte Vesperia: Anything eeelllse?

[12:34:08] Kryo Recreant: Do you want a personal fanfare composing?

[12:34:54] Ron Bleac: Aryte, I have nothing serious to say. But could you like, call in a precision stryke from some high flying Imperial warship onto that Eyjäflajallajökyl place or something, it's dropping ash in my backyard.

[12:35:33] Vinnie Lei: Not only in yer backyard.. but I wanna go to AC too, damnit >:C

[12:35:49] Sosarin Demar is Online

[12:35:50] Kryo Recreant: ...Ordo trip to Lollapalooza what?

[12:35:57] Justice Capalini: valcanos suck ass, im glad i dont live near one.

[12:36:17] Aryte Vesperia: Indeed.

[12:36:25] Aryte Vesperia: Indeed.

[12:36:38] Aryte Vesperia: On that note, good meeting and thank you all for coming.

[12:36:49] Vinnie Lei: <3!

[12:36:51] Aryte Vesperia: Someone go lead a damn raid. I'll be back in an hour or two. Going to write notes for meeting.

[12:36:51] Inoue Katsu: nice meeting you too sir :]

[12:36:56] Inoue Katsu: finally!

[12:36:58] Inoue Katsu: after all this time

[12:37:01] Sera Otoro: haha

[12:37:02] Justice Capalini: indeed it was our pleasure to spend time with you sir!

[12:37:06] Aryte Vesperia: Inoue you retard.

[12:37:07] Aryte Vesperia: Lol.

[12:37:11] Inoue Katsu: haha

[12:37:16] Justice Capalini: chuck-e-cheese soon sir?

[12:37:18] Ron Bleac: I finally got to see Aryte!

[12:37:19] Aryte Vesperia: Dismissed.

Edited April 24, 2010 by Bargo Tomsen

[Aryte]

Thanks Bargo!