semi-sorta necro'in here, but I agree wholeheartedly Tsume! The group is observably different from how it was years ago. In a lot of ways, that sucks for me cause I did enjoy the flow of the organization on SL, and the tight-knit sense of community that a platform like SL gave people to create and work together. Ranking up and such was definitely a lot harder, and even thinking about completing an OCA still gives me a headache to this day. Ultimately I think the Ordo's departure from SL wasn't something that could be controlled. Decisions by LL and the overall direction of the community were factors that I think Ordo couldn't had influenced or changed, no matter how big, successful, or influential it was. The fact that Ordo is observably different now isn't a bad thing though, and I agree with you on that too. Yeah, things are more lax, you don't know everyone quite-so well, but that's not bad. It's still a great community that serves an awesome purpose. Ordo has always done well at maintaining a goal for itself and setting high standards for professionalism in it's operation, while still being a lot of fun and rewarding to be a part of. I'm glad to have seen the community evolve and continue to grow and succeed. My only regret is I wish I was around more, or could get into it again. Buuuut, that's my own problem.