i joined after i left 2142 for the second time. i left 2142 the first time because lordbob had owed me quite a bit of money and was making the job of a commander extremely stressful by causeing drama constantly so i left. i came back because i had a chat with striker that aryte wanted me to come back as commander because the group was falling apart and they said they would help with construction of guns/technology etc. so things were going very well for the 1st couple of days until AN started to think that we were going to be part of IS. so they started harrassing my troops and lordbob was demanding that ordo be shot on site so i broke off the ascendant initiative alliance and had one last fight with AN in 2142 before i left them and told aryte that i wanted to join ordo :D