Tsume Xiao

~ORDO IMPERIALIS~ OFFICIAL DOCUMENT <=====================Extend to this length=========================> <===========================================================> **********Meeting Report********** NAME/RANK/DIVISION: Tsume Xiao | E-7 Succenturio | Terra ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DATE: 16April11 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SUBJECT: Main weekly meeting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SUMMARY: Praetorian Trials, Security Stuff, Crazy Finland Stuff ============================================================ CHAT LOG: [18:03] Aryte Vesperia shouts: Meeting start. As a reminder: all questions, comments (etc) are to be held until given the opportunity to speak. When that opportunity is provided, be sure to raise your hands. Failure to do so may result in dismissal from the meeting. ----------Stats---------- [18:04] Aryte Vesperia: Statistics Members: 323 Cadets: 9 Applications New: 14 Accepted: 2 Denied: 8 Review: 4 Combat Defensive: 125 Offensive: 28 Allied Assist: 0 ----------Unit Reports---------- [18:04] Aryte Vesperia: Diplomatic note this week. No major incidents to note. Combat has been solid on all fronts. Multiple friendly engagements with the Merczateers in New Jessie have proved fruitful. A diplomatic (related) keynote to be covered in primary session. [18:05] Aryte Vesperia: Unit reports this evening? [18:05] Hollowmengitus Yifu raises hand for Terra. [18:05] Ethan Schuman raises his hand for Astra. ----------Terra---------- [18:05] Aryte Vesperia: Mr. Yifu. [18:05] Hollowmengitus Yifu shouts: From Keller for Antesignani: A very exciting and active week for Antesignani - climbing past the vaunted 50 raid mark for the first time. The squad has picked up a couple more bodies, and a new assault rifle to slaughter heretics, but this still leaves the unit with one vacancy to be filled. We're going through the candidates, and hope to have a decision this week. :] [18:06] Hollowmengitus Yifu shouts: Insidiae took a couple field trip over to the Fatherland and ate some German soldiers' sauerkraut sandwiches, shortly after killing all of said soldiers with nothing more then an arsenal of finely crafted (munitorium approved) sporks. As a public service announcement from Insidiae, we would like to remind each and every one of you to keep a man in the mess hall while cooking pork-chop sandwiches. GI-JOE! [18:06] Hollowmengitus Yifu shouts: From Eriksson for Invictus: Extremely eventful week this merry go 'round, so brace for a long report. Activity, per the usual, has been pretty solid so I'd like to commend everyone in Invictus for keeping their games' polished for next week! First on my list of announcements is actually a pretty big announcement: I'd like to congratulate Stirn Aurotharius on being elevated to the Invictus Executive Officer (XO) position. Stirn shows a solid prowess in his leadership and administrative capabilities on and off the field. He not only dedicates much of his time to the better of this squad through assisting in day to day recruitment procedures and trainings, but he also upholds squad morale at a commendable level. So a big Kudos to you, Stirn! Second on my list is another big one: Invictus MCR. [18:06] Hollowmengitus Yifu shouts: As some of you may have seen, Invictus got the final installment on their squad exclusive weapon, the Modular Carbine Rifle. This installment includes the underslung grenade launcher which carries a hefty 3m radius explosive, an awesome particle effect, and well, the classic Invictus badassery that would naturally go to it. So a big thanks to Keller from the entirety of Invictus for getting that done! Third on my list is the participation on the Ludi Heavy Weapons course. This week Invictus was given the exclusive opportunity to 'beta-test' the H.W Ludi course. [18:07] Hollowmengitus Yifu shouts: There was a phenomenal turnout from Invictus, and everyone actually had an awesome time through out the course! Invictus also gives a big thanks to Corsi Mousehold for allowing us that opportunity to contribute a little bit to the IEA! Fourth and last on my list to talk about is recruitment: Invictus is currently recruiting, and we've received a fair bit of scouting requests from numerous people, please be patient with us as we sift through this huge influx of interest. Definitely expect to see a new member within the next week! As always too, if interested, feel more than welcome to bug Stirn or myself! That -finally- concludes the Invictus report for this week! [18:07] Hollowmengitus Yifu shouts: B did not hand me a report this week. [18:08] Hollowmengitus Yifu shouts: That's all for Terra. [18:08] Aryte Vesperia: Thank you. ----------Astra---------- [18:08] Aryte Vesperia: Astra? [18:08] Ethan Schuman: Astra's pretty quiet this week. We mixed up the format of the Nightly Grand Melee slightly. Due to low turnout, we had a game night, which was a lot of fun. The positive reception of this has led to small discussions about melee reformatting, with additional measures to increase the lure of other groups. On the note of other groups, Ookami took out three raids earlier, one of them with tremendously positive feedback regarding air combat. I've spoken with the leader of this group, and he seems pretty solid, so we'll be pursuing that further. Fernando has also been talking about CATI's interest in air combat, so we may seem some additional action on that front too. Zrazor and Sosarin have been working hard at advertising Astra and bringing in new people, and their work is showing. We've picked up a few new people this week, and had some older members return to activity. Our elite unit continues to be fleshed out, and we're looking for potential members. One of the things that we'll be watching is raid particip [18:08] Ethan Schuman: ation this week, so if you're interested, make sure you're stomping the soil of as many enemy sims as you can. The last thing of note that I have to mention is that Sebris has been promoted to CO of Palaestra. Xoza Tyron will be filling his XO slot, but also maintaining his duties as XO of Reapers. Zerowinged has other priorities that he needs to focus on, and has chosen to step down to ensure that the duties of that position are executed properly. Because of scheduling conflicts, ALL Astra members in positions of leadership will be getting certified in basic flight instruction over the next two weeks, to further cut down on problems created by a lack of instructor availability. [18:10] Aryte Vesperia: Thank you. Any additional reports? ----------Cohors B---------- [18:10] Typhon Perun holds up a hand or B. [18:10] Aryte Vesperia: Mr. Perun. [18:10] Typhon Perun whispers: Activity for Cohros B has been steady this week, no real increase or decress, other then PRFs have had a slight increase this week as well. Encrouage ment toteh COhors B COs, hold more training raids, and continue to encourge the PRFs the long term is looking good so so lets keep up the good work. [18:10] Typhon Perun shouts: Activity for Cohros B has been steady this week, no real increase or decress, other then PRFs have had a slight increase this week as well. Encrouage ment toteh COhors B COs, hold more training raids, and continue to encourge the PRFs the long term is looking good so so lets keep up the good work. [18:10] Typhon Perun shouts: That conculded the COhors B report to the best of my knowledge sir. [18:11] Aryte Vesperia: Thank you. Anything further? [18:12] Aryte Vesperia: Very good. Moving on: ----------Sim Cleanup---------- [18:12] Aryte Vesperia: Ø Sim clean up. [18:12] Aryte Vesperia: http://forums.ordoimperialis.com/index.php?/topic/12577-sim-cleanup READ THIS. THAT IS ALL. ----------R&D---------- [18:14] Aryte Vesperia: Ø Development [18:14] Aryte Vesperia: Progress this week . . . hm. The power armor deformation animations are complete and ready to roll. All that is left on that unit is scripting and beta before release. Disembodied Hand has completed a short side task for me and has moved on to a new Ordo weapon . . . otherwise, anything to report from our Munitorum personnel? Anything I haven’t noted? [18:15] Mark Karlfeldt: I actually have to animate the things that go over the deformation animations. [18:15] Mark Karlfeldt: Unless you want to be running around with LL's default animations. [18:15] Aryte Vesperia: Oh. Well. [18:15] Aryte Vesperia: I RETRACT THAT. [18:16] Mark Karlfeldt: catface. [18:16] Aryte Vesperia: Moving on. ----------Praetorian Trials---------- [18:17] Aryte Vesperia: Over the last couple of months, the Praetorian trials have been ongoing. Both formally and informally through observation, the participants have performed admirably. This has been, easily, one of our best rounds of applicants. It has not only been a real pleasure, but an honest challenge to make it through the elimination periods. Without a doubt, that challenge became exponentially more difficult as we reached the final selections. [18:18] Aryte Vesperia: At this time, a list has been completed and selections tentatively made. All that remains is a few personal interviews to be conducted by me with any non-officer candidates. Those will be finished by the weekend’s end. [18:19] Aryte Vesperia: The Guard is looking to pick up more slots then originally intended, following plans for an unprecedented expansion. The goal is to increase the operational capacity of the unit to 24/7, to ensure representation at all hours. Additionally, there are plans to create a sort of auxiliary position that will fit the needs of support elements who do not specifically fit within the combat/command role of the primary Guard. [18:21] Aryte Vesperia: Although the unit’s size will be fluctuating to a larger standing, this will only be temporary—with the implementation of the auxiliary, there will be multiple reassignments and structural shifts, so as to level out the primary Guard. [18:22] Aryte Vesperia: Again, it must be said: thank you to everyone who participated and put forth their name and efforts to apply to the Guard. The turn out this year was strong. You all did extremely well. Elimination from the trials has no bearing on your worth as an individual—you simply may be better fit for other roles. There was not one participant who I could not say I was proud of. ----------Unit Combat Challemge---------- [18:24] Aryte Vesperia: Ø Unit Combat Challenge [18:25] Aryte Vesperia: As we mentioned last week: starting today, we are initiating a combat challenged tailored toward each unit. The unit with the highest number of successful raids will receive a special QP award at the end of the challenge. To qualify: must be at least four participants to the raid and the raid must last at least thirty minutes. [18:25] Aryte Vesperia: And again, as I said last week: Competition, if healthy, is great. But be certain not to demean your fellow members. I really look forward to seeing how often we can hit the field. Please be respectful of any wishes to hold back and pay especially close attention to regulations. We do not want to be seen as “bullying.” Good luck and have fun! ----------Security Notice---------- [18:26] Aryte Vesperia: Ø Security Notice [18:27] Aryte Vesperia: The following is a bit of a PSA from AiR: [18:27] Aryte Vesperia: (The more you know~) [18:28] Aryte Vesperia: After investigation by the Agentes in Rebus and Praetorian Guard, it has come to the Guard's attention that elements of the Vanguard Armed Forces have been attempting to infiltrate or subvert members of the Ordo Imperialis. While these attempts have been relatively fruitless and quickly dealt with, the conclusion of this investigation is being made public to inform the members of the Ordo Imperialis, and no doubt other parties which have a vested interest in this topic. [18:29] Aryte Vesperia: On the morning of April 13th, 2011, numerous suspicious contacts were noticed in the hub, already known or later found to be alternate accounts belonging to members of Vanguard's Kommand and Intellizweneg. Due to the suspicious timing of this sudden activity on Vanguard's part, the Agentes in Rebus began an investigation in cooperation with friendly members of the VAF who did not support what was found to be a malicious attempt to take advantage of a perceived gap in our Estate Managers' schedules. [18:32] Aryte Vesperia: The investigation eventually discovered that a member of the Ordo Imperialis had in fact been coerced into telling Vanguard that activity at that particular time was low and the sim unattended. As the investigation pressed on further, the immediate scale of the leak became apparent. In addition to informing a maliciously hostile military leader of our weak hours, they accidentally furnished Vanguard Intelligence with information concerning Schola and Armatura materials and procedures. [18:35] Aryte Vesperia: The suspected party was called in for questioning; he professed his honesty and claimed on record that he was hiding nothing from the investigators. After much cooperation and further investigation, the most severe of the charges (purposeful treason, intent to commit espionage, etc) against them were dropped. [18:37] Aryte Vesperia: After the questioning was completed, an unaffiliated member of the Ordo Imperialis was harassed by a member of Vanguard's Intellizweneg, and it was discovered another suspect had immediately informed them of our suspicions and the nature of our conversation, leading them (the VG member) to accuse a rank-and-file member of the Ordo Imperialis uninvolved with the investigation. [18:40] Aryte Vesperia: Interestingly, the exact hours that were discussed were utilized by an alternate account to plant chat-spies within multiple meeting rooms. These were summarily discovered and removed. The alternate was identified and does have some apparent connection to a VG member. [18:40] Arch Graves: http://oi54.tinypic.com/34hjfid.jpg [18:41] Aryte Vesperia: These investigations are just the latest in a long series of attempts on Vanguard's behalf to try and incite negative sentiment inside the Ordo. Unable to fight us on the battlefield, it is no surprise that the “Fuhrer” himself has once again taken an interest in attempting to wage war in a more underhanded means. It should also come as no surprise that these underhanded actions only further cement a resolve against a change in our diplomatic stance with them. [18:43] Aryte Vesperia: We acknowledge, and realize that there are personnel in the Ordo who are friends, or at least maintain some communication with members of the opposing military. The author of this statement has personally been friends with members of their Kommand for years, and knows they do not personally tolerate this kind of malice. However, we feel it necessary to remind everyone - communications, reports, briefings, and other military-related documentation are classified and should NOT be distributed, nor would your friends in a blockaded military have any reason to know of such things, even something as simple or mundane as casual conversation in COMs, or a Mercury-generated combat report. If you find your friends attempting to pressure or solicit you into giving them information, it would be wise to consider if they truly have your relationship in mind. [18:44] Aryte Vesperia: Requests for information should be reported, not indulged. [18:44] Aryte Vesperia: That concludes my AiR PSA. Mr. Bleac? ---------- Crazy Finland Time---------- [18:44] Ron Bleac shouts: Right then! Ladies and gentlemen, I know it's extremely hard to take me seriously in this avatar. But, I have to say this. [18:46] Ron Bleac shouts: In regards to the above statement, this is the kind of stuff that the AiR deals with on a regular basis. We protect the Ordo and the people in it, we preserve the innocent and shoot the guilty. That's as simple as it really is. In regards to information security, I only have one thing to say: If you think it might be a bad idea to say something, don't say it. That'll save you from a lot of fuck ups, trust me. Been there, done that and bought the T-shirt with that one. [18:48] Ron Bleac shouts: The Agentes in Rebus's purpose is to protect and serve. Sort of like some corny police unit from a SWAT re-run on late night TV. I ask this of everyone here: If you have any concerns, any suggestions or anything you may want to report, you can come to me or any of the other AiR folk. We're here to help you. The rumors that I behead people when they step into my office are untrue, I'm actually a very loving, affectionate and intelligent person. I actually do it when they exit the room. [18:48] Ron Bleac shouts: That is all. Thank you. [18:49] Xstreet SL Magic Box v3.0.10: Xstreet SL - Delivered item ::ISA:: SCAR-11 v1.2 (Boxed). [18:49] Aryte Vesperia: Thank you. :] ----------Maintaining Value & Quality---------- [18:49] Aryte Vesperia: Ø Commitment to value. [18:50] Kacen Khalamov is Offline [18:50] Aryte Vesperia: As early as the application—throughout Schola, Armatura, and even day by day—there is a constant investment in the ideal of “quality” and a confidence in the importance of maintaining high standards within the organization. [18:52] Aryte Vesperia: Our affection to the idea runs deep. There are checks and balances, constant learning, and ongoing attention to improvement. Our commitment to value is one of our competitive advantages. There are times that we certainly are presented as overly serious by outsiders: but it is that presentation that makes the Ordo what it is. We are here to be the alternative choice in the community; the professionals, the group for those wishing to perform with structure. [18:54] Aryte Vesperia: That commitment is upheld jointly by command expectation and membership performance. If either is lacking, the intent is soured. Personnel wise, an individual who shirks the concept largely finds themselves ostracized and will eventually be removed for disciplinary issues, or remove themself with the age old "too serious" complaint. But, as many of you can likely testify-- there's quite a fun to be had. Being "serious" does not entail having a lack of humour, or having a lack of ability to have fun. It entails knowing when "fun" crosses the line and when things need to shape up in order to perform the task at hand or better the group. [18:55] Aryte Vesperia: Most of all, however, our commitment to value is best tested and best demonstrated by the willingness to improve. There is always room to improve. In every unit, every division, every process. Suggestions and ideas are always welcomed and, many times, expected. The Ordo will always feed on the input of its members: speak up, make yourself (respectfully) heard. Never be afraid to provide your thoughts on how something can be done better, or if something should even be done at all. ----------Final Remarks---------- [18:56] Aryte Vesperia: Any comments, questions (etc)? :] [18:57] Bizcut Vanbrugh raises hand [18:57] Aryte Vesperia: Mr. Vanbrugh? [18:58] Bizcut Vanbrugh: I would like to say that I for one appericate what ordo had to offer. Some of you may know my past and i think it speaks volumes that ordo has in it many former leaders of other millitaries. We have a family here that is uncomparable to any other org on the grid [18:59] Aryte Vesperia: Thank you! [19:00] Aryte Vesperia: Anyone else? [19:01] Aryte Vesperia: All righty. ----------GTFO---------- [19:01] Aryte Vesperia: Promotions will be up tomorrow. [19:01] Aryte Vesperia: Thank you all for coming. Dismissed.

Sounds kinda like Combat Arm's unlock system, but its an Battlefield Game so it probably doesn't suck.

Karl, 1. Did you make it or buy the "just heat" one? 2. That's kinda disgusting 3. Its totally not kosher.

I havent gotten my Code yet ;-;

If you wish to skip my intro feel free to jump to the TL;DR portion at your own discretion. This post has been put on the Ordo Only section of the forums so thoughts that some may want kept within Ordo are kept as so. -------------------------------------------- When I was younger the rabbi who conducted my grandmother's funeral passed to me this advice: "The best way to soothe the pain of mourning is not to grieve for the one you have lost, but to recall all the good times and memories that you were fortunate enough to have shared with them." It is with that advice that I start this thread in memory of our soldier, comrade, brother in arms, and above all, friend, Theodore. He may no longer be with us physically, or in the case of SL, virtually, but nothing can stop him from being with us forever mentally in our minds or emotionally in our hearts. It is in our memories that hsi presence can remain stronger than the report of any rifle he could have wielded in defense of his fellow Ordo, more important than any report he could he could have filed for Curia, and more vivid than any explosive he could have detonated through Insidae. This is the premise under which I ask you all to com forward under. Leave your respects and memories here so we may all share and collectively recall the influence that Theodore had on our persons, our group, and our community as a whole. -------------------------------------------- TL;DR Leave below your memories of the departed friend Theodore Belgar so should our memory of him even hint that it may fade we can read and be reminded of the good times he brought to us. -------------------------------------------- Allow me to share my memories first: If there is one thing that people know about me it is that my Second Life reolves around Ordo and guns. And to those of you wondering why there were two rifles laid out next to the memorial for Theodore, I give you the answer I would not have been able to give during the ceremony even if I was given time, for what others had said had truly had me on the brink of tears. I met Theodore back in early 2009. Not met as in "yeah we fight that guy in MBC" met as in first came to know. It was April and May of that year that I met with some of the leads of MBC and was asked about scripting two rifles for their group. Those rifles were the ones at the memorial: and AK47 and a PP-19 Bizon. "So what. You script lots of rifles. What is the big deal" The rifles matter little in comparison to what they caused. For several weeks I worked with the 7 guys from MBC on those rifles. We became more than just scripter and client, but were all began to become friends as well. This held true during combat, and during just general down time. As time passed militaries changed, only a few of the men I had met stayed in touch with me, and none as much Theodore did. This is why I was so excited to see him with the the Ordo Imperialis tag above his head when he IM'd me and told me he joined. Now we could be friends AND fight on the same side. It was these two rifles that also allowed me to reach out to the 6 others when I heard the sad news yesterday. I remembered a few of them who I had kept in touch with, but some of the others I could not remember names.I pulled the rifles from y inventory and opened the ones that I had made for the 7 men to use if MBC should ever disband and I grabbed the UUID's of them. I contacted those I could, using UUID for those whose names I could not remember. I was able to get a hold of one online, who had already heard the news for Theo's brother, and he spread the word of the ceremony through a group that is essentially a group for old friends from MBC to stay in touch. As the Ceremony approached, I dug out a New Jessie flag from March 2009 and harvested the MBC Flag UUID, and placed the rifles (with permission) at the memorial. And then I stopped, stared and thought back. Back to when I scripted them, back to when I met the guys at MBC, met Theo, when I gave one of my long winded talks about why all the garbage on the rifles should be left off for military use, and back to the combat we all enjoyed together. These rifles. They are nothing more than prims (and not even very good ones), nothing more than verticies, polygons, triangles. They are insignificant. And yet I stop and think. It is funny at times how something a diminutive as scripting a rifle can impact your life so impressively by bringing you a new friend. May you rest in peace Theodore. Your memory will not be forgotten by this young man, for you allowed his hobby to bring to him a new friend. ------------------------------ And because laughter is a wonderful healer of pain, I have pulled this quote from my massive logs I keep of SL quotes that make me laugh: Just as an Ordo raid team came into the MBC desert-city sim build. [19:06] Theodore Belgar: i hate you [19:06] Ruin Nefarious: :( [19:06] Theodore Belgar: lol [19:06] Theodore Belgar: i was about to get me some virtual ass and you had to show up lol [19:06] Ruin Nefarious: ROFL.. ------------------------------ To Krow, Insidae, Arokh, Aryte, the Guard, and all the others who helped make the ceremony as touching as it was I was asked to share this: [17:11] Elazar Rajal: (Saved Sun Mar 27 18:41:31 2011) Make sure that the command staff knows the deep appreciation from all of the old MBC gang. This really ment a lot. Well done. ------------------------------

I requested that some pictures be taken and sent to his brother so he may always reflect on the impact his brother had even to those of us he may have known only through Second Life. I believe Elazar also would like pictures if that is possible.

~ORDO IMPERIALIS~ OFFICIAL DOCUMENT <=====================Extend to this length=========================> <===========================================================> **********Meeting Report********** NAME/RANK/DIVISION: Tsume Xiao | E-7 Succenturio | Terra ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DATE: 26MAR11 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SUBJECT: Main weekly meeting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SUMMARY: Power armor, ART, Welcoming Erebus inductees, etc. ============================================================ CHAT LOG: [18:00] Aryte Vesperia shouts: Obligatory starter, as always: welcome to this week’s meeting. Per the norm, please be certain to hold all questions and comments until provided the opportunity to speak. Interruptions will result in dismissal from the gathering. When you are provided the chance to speak, be sure to /shout/ your comments or questions—otherwise the recorder may not hear you. Thank you: let’s get to it. [18:00] Aryte Vesperia: Statistics Members: 319 Cadets: 12 Applications New: 7 Accepted: 0 Denied: 7 Review: 0 Combat Defensive: 87 Offensive: 14 Allied Assist: 0 [18:01] Aryte Vesperia: Diplomatic report: officers currently deliberating over RCU matters. Not quite settled on how to proceed while meeting Ordo security expectations and RCU requests. Time will tell. Additionally, currently in communication with EE officers over their sim situation. Ordo is potentially able to assist. -----Unit Reports----- [18:01] Aryte Vesperia: Unit reports this evening? [18:02] FireFox Breed rizes one of his clawed paw. [18:02] Aryte Vesperia: Firefox? [18:02] FireFox Breed: From Teron for Antesignani: Bit slower then last week, A-II still was keeping fairly busy at home and abroad, with members participating in numerous raids and defenses, as well as getting in some training operations. Nothing major to report for the squad, it has just been business as usual, though we are looking at some new training regiments. Also yes, there are still positions available, you can come to me (Teron) or Burr about Antesignani. [18:02] FireFox Breed: From Afevis for Insidiae: This week Insidiae delivered a swift kick in the ass to Vanguard in New Jessie shortly after they put out an announcement, our trampling causing them to pull out almost immediately. In other news, we have one slot open at the moment, so anybody interested in joining an alpha squad, please contact either Krow Ames or myself and we will schedule a time for a little chat with you! :] Lastly, something to keep on mind while on defense in downtown Titan. Never hit a man with glasses. Hit him with a baseball bat instead! [18:03] FireFox Breed shouts: From Eriksson for Invictus: Another little bit of a mediocre week -- up and down on the ole' activity scale but that's okay! We've finally received one of the Invictus Modular Carbine Rifle (MCR) variants called the 'Storm', which essentially has a bayonet attached allowing us to get a bigger melee range on our lunge. The other variant is on the way! (Sweet n' cool underslung grenade launcher). Lots of recruiting took place this week, and we've actually managed to claim two (2) people for Invictus! Please give Dibs Taov and Singularity Phenomena a warm welcome to the squad! They both are angels who I know will not ever raid my maple syrupt(*) stash like Stirn did last week. This leaves us with one(1) free slot open on our roster, and we've got numerous people who're pretty eligible for it! However, as always, don't hesitate to further your initiative and inquire with Eriksson Foxtrot or Kastrenzo Benelli. This concludes the Invictus report for this week, now I need to tend to Stirn making another attempt at [18:03] FireFox Breed shouts: raiding my maple syrupt(*) stash. [18:03] FireFox Breed shouts: From Thatguy for Cohors B: More people more activity, BUT WHAT'S THIS, LESS PRF'S. COMMON GUYS. But in all seriousness, activity has gone up as well as our numbers thanks to the globs of recruits being passed through. New people, be sure to bug your Century CO about PRF's, a great way to start unlocking our super-cool awesome equipment! The Cohors B Command Staff will have a meeting most likely tonight sometime after the main meeting. Be sure you're bugging your CO's for any problems, comments, questions, or even complaints what so ever. Looking forward to yet another great week full of activity and century events! [18:03] FireFox Breed shouts: That is all. [18:04] Aryte Vesperia: Thank you. Next? [18:04] Ethan Schuman raises his hand for Astra. [18:04] Aryte Vesperia: Mr. Schuman? [18:04] Ethan Schuman shouts: Astra's report this week will be short. The first, and most significant topic, is that the Apostles have been formally disbanded and decommissioned. The Apostles have long been a part of Astra history, and that of Ordo in general, but we have decided to retire them as part of our new strategic approach. Blaze and Rei are working hard on a new elite unit, and have a concept. I'd tell you about it, but I don't want to get anything wrong. Our activity as a united division has been dismal, but there are factors in play that can't be avoided. Zerowinged and Sebris should be wrapping up the last of the new Palaestra materials, and the tactical squadron flight leaders (and XOs) have a meeting with the Blaze and Rei at some point this week (probably after 2PM SLT) to discuss activity and expectations. Nikki and I will be there as well. Hopefully, we'll come out of it with some fresh ideas. [18:05] Ethan Schuman shouts: The last thing I have to talk about is our new piece of equipment. For as long as I've been a part of the Second Life military community, the "holy grail" of air combat has been a practical carrier vessel. After a brilliant suggestion on Teron's part, Astra will be making use of our development slot to pursure a carrier. It will likely require a HUGE amount of QP to unlock (1000+) to access, but this has yet to be determined. One of the functions of this vessel will be to serve as a mobile platform for Nemesis launching. More details will be shared as time goes on, so keep your ears open. [18:06] Aryte Vesperia: Thank you. [18:07] Aryte Vesperia: Any additional reports this evening? [18:08] Aryte Vesperia: Excellent. Moving along. -----Content Theft----- [18:08] Aryte Vesperia: Several things for me to touch on. So bear with me. [18:09] Aryte Vesperia: To begin with, there is a bit of an incident to report. On the 24th, multiple individuals friendly to the Ordo provided details regarding an apparent smear attempt targeting my person and the Ordo Imperialis. Preliminary investigations have determined that an undisclosed individual has copybotted my personal avatar, our formal dress attire, and the secluded corner of our headquarters tower. [18:11] Aryte Vesperia: The stolen items were used to create a set—the base corner that was copied hides the rest of the base, thus giving the impression of being “real.” A very short YouTube video was then created displaying an individual utilizing my stolen avatar to do something a bit lewd. [18:12] Aryte Vesperia: At first glance, it gives the impression that I would apparently randomly go do something pretty silly in the corner of our sim. Naturally, this would be something akin to a dream for many of our foes. However, on closer inspection there is a lot wrong with the video (the act itself aside): [18:14] Aryte Vesperia: The room that the avatar is standing next to was only recently textured, however the avatar is featured wearing attire I have not been wearing in over a month. The sim background is misplaced and wrongly arranged—the void scape is distorted. The room the avatar is standing next to is missing its door. The avatar is missing my blue eyes. The avatars head follows the mouse arrow, indicating it was obviously recorded by the avatar. [18:16] Aryte Vesperia: Although the personal attack is rather despicable, it is something that I really find ridiculous and have no problem weathering. The content theft and attempt at smearing my group is what requires attention. We have multiple leads thus far. The AiR and several joint agencies / individuals who are friendly to the Ordo are working to drag the cowards into light. At this point, we are very confident with the information we have and will have definitive results shortly. [18:18] Aryte Vesperia: In meantime, please be vigilant – there is little doubt that attempts to defame will continue. Please report any dissemination or instances to command or AiR. Thank you. -----Gear----- [18:19] Aryte Vesperia: > Gear [18:20] Aryte Vesperia: Now that we have that out of the way . . . on to happier topics. Development progress has been solid this week. First off: the power armor is entirely complete model wise. The primary chaingun is modeled, textured, and in my inventory. Disembodied is eyeing a scaled, modified version to replace our current Subjugator. [18:21] Aryte Vesperia: Now that we have that out of the way . . . on to happier topics. Development progress has been solid this week. First off: the power armor is entirely complete model wise. The primary chaingun is modeled, textured, and in my inventory. Disembodied is eyeing a scaled, modified version to replace our current Subjugator. [18:24] Aryte Vesperia: Mr. Hand is taking a break from major products to churn out a couple of easier tasks. The first two are the highly demanded enclosed digi boots for the UCA, and formal digi boots for the dress uniform. After which, I have convinced him into creating a special melee weapon: power claws. ---Out of context but funny--- [18:26] Aryte Vesperia: Slipping on my pimping today. [18:26] Disembodied Hand: Pimpin aint easy. [18:26] Aryte Vesperia: Amen. [18:26] Aryte Vesperia: Anyways: [18:26] Aryte Vesperia: The melee will be intended for the UCA and will likely have some more functionality over simply being close-in attack—perhaps like a ground smash AOE. -----ART----- [18:27] Aryte Vesperia: > ART [18:28] Aryte Vesperia: Yesterday I posted all of the ART materials in the IEA area of the forums. I will go ahead and begin the cycle of sessions formally as of next weekend, so as to give any would-be participant an opportunity to thoroughly review the materials. I will, however, be holding a preliminary review/kind of work-through session tomorrow at the time slot the ART will typically be conducted: 5:00 PM SLT. [18:29] Aryte Vesperia: The preliminary dealio will largely be a discussion on “how” things will go, provide an opportunity to explore, ask questions . . et cetera. It will be a great chance to put your thoughts in and influence how our program will run. [18:30] Aryte Vesperia: Please at least give the materials a brush over if you intend to drop by for the preliminary hearing. If you don’t, well, you will largely not have any idea what we are talking about. [18:33] Aryte Vesperia: > Looking ahead; potential “specialization” set up. [18:34] Aryte Vesperia: As the armory, membership, structure . . . etc all expands, I am constantly trying to think of better ways to function. I am really fond of our QP system—it detracts from the need to rank up for gear, and provides a way to reward personnel. However, I really see opportunity to enhance and improve the way we handle unlocks, gear allocation, and give members a more distinguishable way to approach things. [18:36] Aryte Vesperia: I am eyeing the possibility of setting up quasi-class/specialization tiers, however while maintaining the freedom that we currently have in unlocks. In other words: you don’t have to unlock A to be able to get B, or B to get C (etc). Instead, by unlocking A, B, and C you are deemed “specialized” in a certain class, permitting you to unlock D; D being specific to that class. [18:38] Aryte Vesperia: The benefit of this, I believe, is that it would fit readily into our recent investment towards fire teams, battle buddies, etc. Certain distinguishable specializations would fit in certain scenarios, or even certain squads. This is only an idea at this point. It isn’t even on paper. But it is an idea that seems feasible and potentially beneficial beyond entertainment value. -----Aryte's Speech Thing----- [18:39] Aryte Vesperia: > Resolve: Ordo United [18:40] Aryte Vesperia: With the recent intake of new members (who are all awesome, I must add), I really think it is time I subject you all to a little monolog from me, haha. [18:42] Aryte Vesperia: This group has been here for a long, long time—and as far as I am concerned, we are going to be here on SL until there’s no longer an SL to be on. Even then, I have no doubt our community will continue on into other worlds. [18:43] Aryte Vesperia: There are a lot of negative aspects to this game, but no matter the day’s challenge, I am always deeply impressed and thankful for the participation and presence of each and every one of you. You are all essentially family to me. Even Ice . . . and Bracket . . [18:45] Aryte Vesperia: How strange to think—the impact that we are capable of, over a virtual platform. With each other, there is nothing we cannot accomplish. [18:46] Aryte Vesperia: The strength of the Ordo is not in its members numbers. It’s the character of its members. The value of its members. The faith and commitment of its members. And it really goes without saying: the Ordo is one heck of a strong group. [18:46] Aryte Vesperia: Ron? ------Memorial Announcement----- [18:46] Ron Bleac shouts: Yes. [18:46] Ron Bleac shouts: Soldiers, airmen, sailors, brothers and sisters of the Ordo Imperialis. I have been asked to deliver a message. [18:47] Ron Bleac shouts: It is with a heavy heart that I must be the bearer of some bad news. As Aryte said, the Ordo is a strong group. A strong group of flesh, blood, bone and marrow. The Ordo is a mortal group composed of human beings with lives, hearts and minds. As a group matures and grows, we all grow with it. We experience new things that are both good and bad. Soldiers gain experience at the front lines, make new friends and acquaintances. Every person here I consider a friend. The Ordo stands on friendship, the relations we form with eachother and how we act together. It's what makes us a team. [18:48] Ron Bleac shouts: Even if this is a virtual world, as we grow older we must come to terms with the reality that everything here is temporary. We must come to terms with the fact that the Ordo is not an immortal creature. The Ordo and all of its members will come to an end at some point. The group itself will go, as Aryte said, when Second Life keels over. But some of us will be with this group for weeks. Some for months. Many for years, even. [18:49] Ron Bleac shouts: But rarely will anyone be with it forever. [18:49] Ron Bleac shouts: It is with great sorrow that I must announce that Theodore Belgar, member and veteran of the Ordo Imperialis has passed away after a battle with a medical condition. [18:49] Ron Bleac shouts: We will grow old together, but Theodore will be young forever. Mister Belgar was an impressive member of the Imperialis with a great service record. During his time here he made many friends, many of whom who are here today. [18:50] Ron Bleac shouts: Theodore, you will be missed. Whilst your rifle is now silent and your steps will never again echo in the silent halls of our homeland, you will be remembered. [18:51] Ron Bleac shouts: Lay thee down thy bayonet and wash thy bloodied brow, your burden and war is over. No longer will you have to fight or watch your comrades die. Disarm and rest, Theodore. We will see you again on heavens streets. [18:51] Ron Bleac shouts: A special service will be held tomorrow, Sunday, in memoriam of Theodore Belgar. I encourage you all to be present. In the fading light of the evening sun we'll all gather to say goodbye to this fallen comrade, who is set to fly. Krow Ames, Theodore's commanding officer will be holding the service. I extend my condolences to everyone here. [18:51] Ron Bleac shouts: A special service will be held tomorrow, Sunday, in memoriam of Theodore Belgar. I encourage you all to be present. In the fading light of the evening sun we'll all gather to say goodbye to this fallen comrade, who is set to fly. Krow Ames, Theodore's commanding officer will be holding the service. I extend my condolences to everyone here. [18:52] Ron Bleac shouts: Theodore will not be forgotten. His name shall be in solemn sculpture cast. We will keep him close in our hearts and minds. Stone and granite may degrade, but the human mind is forever. [18:53] Ron Bleac shouts: That is all. -----Dismissal----- [18:53] Aryte Vesperia: Thank you, Mr. Bleac. [18:53] Aryte Vesperia: We will announce a time on the forums as soon as it is arranged. [18:54] Aryte Vesperia: Thank you all for coming this evening. I have no doubt a raid will be organized after this proceeding. I'll be around. [18:54] Aryte Vesperia: Dismissed. [18:54] Aryte Vesperia snaps his fist to his chest, presenting a brief salute.

Your last post with the list of the remaining candidates said Thursday.

RESULTS Tsume did not judge due to the score of a given contestant being so epic we decided to leave it so he could enjoy it. Below are the contestants in order of final score. The maximum possible score was 120 points. A second prize was added, despite the original intention for this amount of players. Scores and feedback are random in their order so they cannot be traced back to the judge that left them. Some Judges were very forgiving and nice, others were much more critical Deal with it. Click here to listen to entries Judges -Cyphre -Ethan -Fox -Marcus Criteria -Vocals -Correctness -Balance Zrazor Place: 1st Points: 118 Song: Muse - Uprising Judge 1 Score:30 Does anything else need be said? Pitch, lyrics, tempo... everything was perfect. His vocals were actually stronger than the original song, which I liked a lot. Commentary was good too. =p Judge 2 Score:29 -Vocals: 9 -Correctness: 10 -Balance: 10 Judge 3 Score: 30 -Vocals: 10 -Correctness: 10 -Balance: 10 -Vocals: The song was song amazingly. I was greatly surprised by this. -Correctness: The lyrics were kept as if read from the monitor. -Balance: The balance of the voice was what convinced me mostly that this was the song that he could sing. Do not let the intro scare you. Judge 4 Score: 29 -Vocals: 10 -Correctness: 10 -Balance: 9 Notes: Put that shit on my Iphone, yeah boi Sebris Place: 2nd Points: 105 Song: Gorillaz - Broken Judge 1 Score: 28 -Vocals: 10 -Correctness: 9 -Balance: 9 -Vocals: Good song to choose and well put. -Correctness: The lyrics were mostly correct. I did discover two or three off, but else, good. -Balance: Some pitches here and there, but else, well done. Judge 2 Score: 26 Judge 3 Score: 24 Pitch was almost entirely in synch, vocals were solid. His mic quality is crap, but that's probably not his fault. His tempo was a little off in certain places, but good overall. Judge 4 Score: 27 Vocals: 9 Correctness: 10 Balance: 8 Tsume Place: 3rd Points: 94 Song: Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up Judge 1 Score: 25 Vocals: 8 Correctness: 10 Balance: 7 Some issues with wavering Judge 2 Score: 24 -Vocals: 7 -Correctness: 9. -Balance: 8 -Vocals: A problem keeping the rhythm of the song. -Correctness: The lyrics were kept nicely. That much I can say. -Balance: The balance were slightly off at points, but else, kept well. (Impressive voice control at points. Almost as if it was a clone) Judge 3 Score: 21 You're a jew. Judge 4 Score: 24 Vocals: 8 Correctness: 8 Balance: 8 Corsi Place: 4th Points: 91 Song: Garth Brooks - The River Judge 1 Score: 15 Was disappointed. He had the pitch DEAD ON in certain places (mostly toward the end) but his pace was completely off, forcing me to work play/pause button magic to keep the song and his singing in synch. Also, edited sound effects is >=(. Next time, forget acapella and sing with the song. Judge 2 Score: 30 -Vocals: 10 -Correctness: 10 -Balance: 10 -Vocals: He sang the song almost perfect and surprised me slightly. -Correctness: The lyrics were sung fully as if read whilst sung. -Balance: There were some twitches in the voice here and there, but else, smoothly kept. Judge 3 Score: 18 -Vocals: 6 -Correctness: 6 -Balance: 6 Judge 4 Score: 28 Vocals: 9 Correctness: 10 Balance: 9 Achtai Place: 5th Points: 85 Song: The Eagles - Hotel California Judge 1 Score: 16 -Vocals: 5 -Correctness: 8 -Balance: 3 Judge 2 Score: 27 -Vocals: 9 -Correctness: 10 -Balance: 8 -Vocals: She sang quite well. Not perfect, but quite good. -Correctness: She remembered the lyrics fully. -Balance: It is a difficult song to sing for people with a lighter voice so the tone caused a bit of issues and there were some pitches here and there. Judge 3 Score: 24 Vocals: 7 Correctness: 10 Balance: 7 Judge 4 Score: 18 Tempo and pitch were off, but at a fairly consistent offset. She seemed to know the feel of the song, but had trouble with executing it. It would probably have been a lot better if she had had the song playing while she sang Ron Place: 6th Points: 69 Song: Dalmatian Rex and the Eigentones - Octopus I love you Judge 1 Score: 18 Vocals: 6 Correctness: 7 Balance: 5 Judge 2 Score: 20 -Vocals: 6 -Correctness: 8 -Balance: 6 -Vocals: I cannot say that was well sung. A good attempt to keep up with the song, but not well sung. -Correctness: The lyrics were kept to a decent amount. -Balance: Not a song of his, so much I can say. The tone was off and his voice twitched. Judge 3 Score: 10 -Vocals: 5 -Correctness: 5 -Balance: 0 Judge 4 Score: 21 Voice wasn't steady at all, and trailed behind the song quite a bit. On the plus side, I didn't have to look up the lyrics in advance. Normal score would be a five, but he wins a point for being from Finland and another for making fun of Keller. ---------------------------------------------- Results 1st: Zrazor (Prize: $L2000 to spend at listed stores) 2nd: Sebris (Prize: $L1000 to spend at listed stores) 3rd: Tsume (Prize: New Skill: Jew-Rolled) 4th: Corsi 5th: Achtai 6th: Ron (Prize: You always win when you have 69 points)

Agares: I was just told tomorrow I have this build thing I have to attend that will run from 3-7SLT. I do howevever get out of normal calsses at 1PM SLT. Would it be possible for m e to attend the 1-2 SLT Block tomorrow?

WTF?! Thats amazing.

ENTRIES POSTED />http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6A8G5PI0 Contestants -Achtai -Corsi -Ron -Sebris -Tsume (Just for fun) -Zrazor Judges -Cyphre -Fox -Ethan -Marcus -Tsume -Aryte (If he wants :3)

[18:05] Zerowinged Vasiliev rapes your hat [18:05] Tsume Xiao: I don't have a hat? [18:05] Zerowinged Vasiliev: FFFUUUU

ENTRIES CLOSED Judges (we still need one more if possible) I will contact you with a combined link of all the stuff and some judging/rating criteria.

Just as an additional follow up to my original post of my schedule. I begin my new quarter of courses today/tomorrow (Its Monday for me technically) and on Mondays & Wednesdays I have a class that runs until 6:50CST/4:50 SLT. There is a possibility I may be slightly late to some of the trials on those days, as I do not know how this professor handles time. However, if I am late, it will be just a few minutes.

Due to the apparent need for a time extension on over half the entrants, I will be extending the deadline to 11:59PM SLT Monday. This is in-part to the fact that I have not had SL access for the past two days, and my IM's got capped, so I may have missed submission links.

People should be able to follow instructions. And for ease of distribution to judges, a file-hosting is easier.

Seriously... If you guys can upload the file someplace. That allows me to .rar them and link them all to the judges in one quick link.

Example Entry Form Name: Tsume Xiao Rank: E-7 Branch: Terra Song: Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up Method: A Cappella or Traditional. Unsure as of now.

So while I sit here unable for combat on my laptop, my mind wandered back to the silly idea I had for an Ordo contest: karaoke. I don't know why. I don't know where this idea came from. Don't ask. But basically I figured it would be a fun little contest to get some non-combat participation going. And for the luls. So here goes. ---Ordo Karaoke Contest--- For fun, I have decided to to hold a Karaoke contest for Ordo Imperialis members while I am unable to fight. Before anyone freaks out: Hell no. This is not happening in vent! So how is this going to happen? This is going to be a contest held by submission of entry. You will submit your entry digitally, and it will be graded by the judges. What is Karaoke? I am too lazy to type out a description. Click Here How to Enter To enter this contest, you will be required to record yourself singing a song (you do not have to sing the entire song, but that will be discussed later) 1. Complete and post the entrance form (found at the bottom of this thread) as a reply to this thread. 2. Sing. Duh. 3. Submit the recording. The recording must then be uploaded to a file-sharing site such as MegaUpload or RapidShare or emailed to me directly (this is not preferred, and will be done only when the file-sharing websites are not an option). That is it. Winners Winners will be determined by a panel of five judges, including myself. We still need 2 more judges if you wish to volunteer, but then you cannot enter) Entries will be judged on the following criteria -How well the vocal quality -How well the song was replicated (proper lyrics, speed, etc) -Overall performance -Other random stuff? Maybe? Prizes What fun would a contest be without prizes!?!? Prizes will be a monetary amount of products from companies that are represented in Ordo by active members. Titan Industries Ironsight Armaments Defectiva! Forge Erusian N. Industries Corporation (ENIC) D18 Munitions Shiva Engineering, LLC *List subject to change. IM me if I missed any companies. The prizes will vary by number of participants: Under 10 Participants -1st Place: $2000Lworth of merchandise from the listed stores Between 10-20 Participants -1st Place: $2000Lworth of merchandise from the listed stores -2nd Place: $1000Lworth of merchandise from the listed stores 20+ Participants -1st Place: $3000Lworth of merchandise from the listed stores -2nd Place: $2000Lworth of merchandise from the listed stores -3rdPlace: $1000Lworth of merchandise from the listed stores Rules -Participants MUST be personnel or veterans of the Ordo Imperialis -Deadline for entries is March 5th, 11:59 PM SLT. -Submissions must be in .wav or .mp3 format -Any form of singing on Ventrillo will be a disqualification. -Songs must be real. No parodies or song's you made up. -Songs must have actual lyrics. No. You cannot sing -Songs must be appropriate. I don't mean no songs with swearing, I mean no songs like Gunther - Ding Dong Song, or Lords of Acid - Show Me Your Pussy. Seriously. (Also, do not Google search "show me your pussy" to find out who sing's that song. You get some crazy ass shit) -Songs must be in English. Exceptions made for well known songs. (Examples of Exceptions: Nena - 99 Luftballons. O-Zone - Dragostea din tei. Pretty much anything by Rammstein.) -Submissions MUST contain a minimum of 45 seconds of actual singing. (For example, the first 15-20 seconds of Journey's Don't Stop Believin' do not count) -Submissions must be you actually singing. -Well known songs are preferred. -Try to avoid signing a song already picked. -Submissions will be posted in some form on the Ordo forums for all to enjoy. -Tsume will also sing so you can laugh at him*. He will not be exempt from this. Q_Q *This will be done between guns he is scripting, provided Aryte lets him leave the buildzone for his daily allowance of sunlight. There are 3 methods you may sing by: -A cappella: Just your voice singing in rhythm. No music. -Traditional Karaoke Style: Your voice over a special music/back-up vocals only track. -Sing-Over: Your voice singing over the actual singer's. Essentially the "ghetto-rigged" version of traditional Karaoke. If you chose this method you should keep the volume of the original track low so your voice is dominant over that of the original artist's. ----------------------------------------------- Entrance Form Name: Rank: Branch: Song: <Artist - Song Name> Method: ----------------------------------------------- ---FAQ, Tips & Websites--- Q: But Tsume! How do I record myself? I don't have a program to do that! A: Bullshit. All Windows computer have a program called "Sound Recorder" Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> Sound Recorder However, for better control of your recording (Able to start over easier, see your time, etc etc) I suggest Audacity. It is free and very useful. I make my gun sounds with it. http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ For MP3 exporting: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq?s=install&item=lame-mp3 Q: I want to sing X song, but I don't know all the lyrics. What do I do? A: Look them up on this site. I'd say print them out or put them on screen when you sing. http://www.songlyrics.com/ Q: I don't want to sing a cappella. Where do I get background music! A: For standard Karaoke style music, the more common the song the easier it is to get. Here are some sites. The Karaoke Channel Online: Check the "Free Songs Only" Box KaraokePlay: Use the "Search" option. You do not need to log in. Ronan's Free Online Karaoke Music Factory Karaoke: YouTube Channel with Traditional Karaoke Mixes. ---Other Questions--- Q: I can't sing! A: Its all for fun. Try it! You have nothing to lose! Q: I will embarrass myself. A: You are not alone. I am submitting an entry to. So you will have at least one other person with you. Q: What about X company. Can i get something from them? A: If they are owned by an Ordo member, let me know and I will add them to the list. Otherwise, no. The point of the prizes is to support Ordo members and raise awareness about their stores. Q: I am nervous! What do I do? A: Go to your bathroom and sing in there. ---Tips--- -Stand up! It opens the airways and makes singing easier. -Sing a song you like and are comfortable with. It will be easier! -Don't sing out side of your octave! Bring the song to your level. -Have lyrics on hand! Even if it is your favorite song, you can't be expected to know all the words by heart. -Keep a good distance from your mic to prevent the sounds of your breathing from coming through, and from your breath hitting the mic and causing distortion. -Warm up! Sing the song or song portion a few times before you record to get your vocal chords ready. -Have fun! :D

I am glad to see my demented creation has caused inspiration. If you do not have an Epic Sax, feel free to contact me, although it is copy-trans, so any owner may hand you one.

[18:20] Aryte Vesperia: Karlfeldt? :) [18:20] Aryte Vesperia: (Welcome back.) [18:20] Markus Karlfeldt (mark.karlfeldt): When the fuck are you gonna do the Satan .44. [18:20] Aryte Vesperia: .. when -- well. [18:20] Aryte Vesperia: Tsume just needs to change the bullets. YOU SAID, AND I QUOTE "I WANT TO SHOOT CARS OUT OF MY GUNS" I actually need to also get the color changing thing and stuff in place, the working model you see was me getting bored and wanting a revolver.

It could be either! The Steyr TMP had a flat backed receiver, no stock, no rails. The B&T MP9 had a partially offset lower for a stock attachment point, and can come with three rails, or four if you get the version with the bottom rail instead of the integrated grip. Also, from experience, I would not plan too far ahead. >.> Wait until you get to the point where you are ready for another project, then see what you want to do. This way a changing market or if some new popular gun comes out, you don't see your planning screwed over, nor are you fixed in.

[17:37] thatguy Andel: I can try resetting the internet [17:37] Kristian Kit: How long would that take? [17:37] Dz Dagger is Online [17:37] thatguy Andel: 2 minutes probably [17:37] Duskra Ghost is Online [17:37] Kristian Kit: Okay then, Go [17:37] thatguy Andel: Roger [17:38] Kristian Kit: In the meanwhile i will tell the other candidates the story about little red riding hood [17:38] Kristian Kit: Once upon a time there was a young blonde girl.. [17:38] Tsume Xiao: BULLSHIT [17:38] Tsume Xiao: THERE ARE NO GIRLS ON THE INTERNET [17:38] Acheron Gloom: She was known by the moniker 'Kristian Kit'. [17:39] Tsume Xiao throws a tarp over Drasa [17:39] Drasamax Python: lol [17:39] thatguy Andel is Offline [17:39] Kristian Kit: This was a very sweet girl that always did exactly what her parents and 8 year old boyfriend told her to do [17:39] Kristian Kit: older* [17:39] Acheron Gloom: 8 year old [17:40] Kristian Kit: That's a detail.. [17:40] Kristian Kit: Anyway, she caught word that her grandmother got sick and no one was there to nurse her. [17:40] Kristian Kit: Little red riding hood, such a sweet girl as she was decided to go visit her grandma whom lived on the other side of the forest [17:41] Kristian Kit: But the forest was dangerous, it was filled with furries [17:41] Kristian Kit: Nevertheless , little red riding hood selected some of her best apples and decided to bring them to her grandma [17:42] Kristian Kit: ..god what is taking thatguy so long i don't know the precise story anymore,, [17:42] Kristian Kit: Anyway, she went off to travel to her grandma. On her way she met a lumberjack. [17:42] Kristian Kit: Hey where are you heading little girl he said [17:43] Kristian Kit: I am going to see my grandma, she is very sick and living on the other side of the forest. I am going to bring her these delicious apples sir [17:43] Kristian Kit: But miss's , the forest is dangerous. there are evil furries everywhere [17:43] Kristian Kit: Yes sir, but my grandma is all alone and i have to go see her. [17:44] Kristian Kit: Well if there is nothing i can say to stop you then the best of luck and stay safe [17:44] Kristian Kit: So little red riding hood proceeded on her journey, not much later she encountered one of the furries. This was a big evil white wolf furry [17:44] Kristian Kit: He had blue eyes and stared at her with a hungry stare [17:45] Kristian Kit: Hey little girl, where are you going with those delicious apples [17:45] Acheron Gloom: Is this how we got Heather [17:45] Kristian Kit: (wtf, who came up with the idea of making a vegetarian wolf ) [17:45] Kristian Kit: Those apples are for my grandma sir [17:45] Kristian Kit: She is sick and she needs them [17:45] thatguy Andel is Online [17:46] Kristian Kit: And the wolf ate them old [ the end ] [17:46] Kristian Kit: Your good thatguy?