Aryte Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Visitors are welcome to take snapshots of the base -- there is no regulation against that. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Russell Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I believe the hostility has come from your take on this in the past. Many hostiles have been killed for doing this. I specifically recall Mikael being engaged in the spawn for alt-camming around base. Back in 2008, as I recall, you considered an act of reconaisance to be an act of hostility. Could you clarify? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Shaman Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 In the current handbook that I have (v2.0a 24NOV09) I cant find mention of this policy, or mention of it going back to 1.9.8 (I thinkIX-904: Valid hostile parties may not be engaged within the spawn without explicit reasoning, such as:----- a. Misuse of the spawn; as in, firing from it.IX-905: Enemies may linger within the spawn as long as they wish; the only exception would be valid override by command on the basis of:----- a. Enemies proven disinterested in neutral approach, but wish to loiter in spawn to "taunt" defenders.----- b. Enemy party idling, unresponsive, simply loitering.Again, these relate to Hostile parties. Visitors would be classified as Neutral IMO.-----I am not certain if it is still being issued in the modern schola (I was the last class to be sent through the 4phase Schola) We were handed a notecard titled "Ordo Imperialis; Spawn and Guard Regulations" dated 22MAY08 that states:o) Exceptions to firing into the spawn otherwise:- - Newbies, such as listed above. Reason: sim integrity; chances are they're here to crash it.- - Enemies whom spend over-prolonged amounts of time, or are noted to be "panning their camera around the region" may be fired upon. Reason: if they can pan their camera around to take pictures of the simulator as a spy, they've obviously loaded enough to combat. This DOES NOT MEAN gun down anyone who lingers over five minutes-- it is simply a rule in place to be utilized if necessary. Use discretion.(Overly prolonged amount of time: 5 minutes) - - Enemies, firing from the spawn. Reason: obviously, if you're fired on from the spawn, defend yourself.In practice, tho, I have only seen like 1 person get shot for intel photos from the spawn. (or for going afk for an hour in the spawn with alarms blaring) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agares Tretiak Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 They are obviously all spies! Kill them all! hang them from the gates!Well, that used to be our general repsonse. Since the hotspots tihngy or what ever it's called, I'm sure we ahve some peopel who just go "Oooohaaaaaah!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphre Iredell Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Most of the time it has happened, there has been plenty of jumping the gun due to current impending copybot threats then and now. Suspicious newbies will always remain suspicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribena Homewood Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Killing snappy takers and all of a sudden deeming them spies is kinda stupid anyway. :X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygna Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Controlling individuals that are maliciously producing images of our estate is quite a difficult task. The standard method that we employ to determine if images are being taken is by (A) deciding if the individual is idle in the spawn and (B) their alt-cam is dancing around the sim. This is a tricky situation because they may not actually be producing images, but rather (and more likely) admiring or critiquing the sim build. Also, it is quite easy to hide your alt-cam, so a scenario of an individual claiming they're simply filling out an application but are rather maliciously producing images can occur.TL;DR: There's nothing we can do to stop malicious images, it would be easier to simply not worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sera Otoro Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 i suppose itd be alright for visitors to take snapshots... but if its known hostiles, then i feel its a problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Kuhr Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 It's an old regulation from back in the day to nail people who were trying to recon the base. I don't think it's been an issue for a long time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Itamae Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 I think i've seen that up as a concern only once. In the first incarnation of Titan i'd ever seen, the original temp build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anlysia Gregoire Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 TBH for us to get in people's proverbial "grill" about pictures is kind of silly since we have a group that does just the same...scopes enemy bases and writes information.Unless we fully expect to be shot on sight for showing up in other people's hubs, we really can't do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorFox Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 TBH for us to get in people's proverbial "grill" about pictures is kind of silly since we have a group that does just the same...scopes enemy bases and writes information.Unless we fully expect to be shot on sight for showing up in other people's hubs, we really can't do the same.This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiridates Mikadze Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Frankly, no. We shouldn't allow photography, we're a military base, not a tourist attraction :(And yeah, we go to enemy bases and photograph and map them. They're free to try and stop us. But we shouldn't allow people to run about snapping photos. It's just bad for security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Gravois Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Frankly, no. We shouldn't allow photography, we're a military base, not a tourist attraction :(And yeah, we go to enemy bases and photograph and map them. They're free to try and stop us. But we shouldn't allow people to run about snapping photos. It's just bad for security.Please define and expand on what you mean by "security". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keno Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 (edited) Frankly, no. We shouldn't allow photography, we're a military base, not a tourist attraction :(And yeah, we go to enemy bases and photograph and map them. They're free to try and stop us. But we shouldn't allow people to run about snapping photos. It's just bad for security.That's rubbish, if people want to scout our base you know they will, it's pretty hard to stop them and they don't need to take snapshots to do it. Stopping people from taking snapshots isn't going to help 'security', infact all it will do is make us look bad for shooting people who just want to look. Edited March 1, 2010 by Imperial Admiral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsume Xiao Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Frankly, no. We shouldn't allow photography, we're a military base, not a tourist attraction :(Actually, since the Second Life Hot Spots thing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygna Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Frankly, no. We shouldn't allow photography, we're a military base, not a tourist attraction :(And yeah, we go to enemy bases and photograph and map them. They're free to try and stop us. But we shouldn't allow people to run about snapping photos. It's just bad for security.Tiridates, your proposal is a waste of time and effort for we cannot successfully enforce it.Prove me wrong by providing a solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
