Kristian Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 To: The members of the Alliance Navy, The Combat Community & The New Jessie War JournalGood day, the following is a statement from the Alliance Navy as to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Abrams Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 That was an interesting read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphre Iredell Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Stunning. Not much of a change there though, as they've decided to both declare war on Sparta and its allies, and yet take no part in an alliance with the Iron Symphony for little reason. Bit of a Rules of Engagement snafu with them still technically being neutral to the IS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Khalamov Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) Stunning. Not much of a change there though, as they've decided to both declare war on Sparta and its allies, and yet take no part in an alliance with the Iron Symphony for little reason. Bit of a Rules of Engagement snafu with them still technically being neutral to the IS.I guess they just want to go it alone.Speaking of the Commonwealth, what's our diplomatic status with them? Still hostile? Edited January 12, 2009 by Mikael Khalamov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) I think we haven't established diplomatic standings with the commonwealth as a whole yet. We are in war with some if not most militaries that are a part of the commonwealth but that was already the case before they decided to unite themselves. So yeah, i guess we are in war with them due the fact that we were already in war with the independent factions, we are not officially in war with the commonwealth. Well all in all that's a detail and a matter of time. The only military in the commonwealth that likes us is the SLSN, the others hate us. Edited January 12, 2009 by Kristian Kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygna Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Bruno has never been very careful with diplomacy, it's what hurts himself and his military. There doesn't seem to be a notecard creator listed-- who made this Kristian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) Jason Edited January 12, 2009 by Kristian Kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Khalamov Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I'm really surprised that the AN would declare war on anyone, given their current state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Flintoff Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Stunning. Not much of a change there though, as they've decided to both declare war on Sparta and its allies, and yet take no part in an alliance with the Iron Symphony for little reason. Bit of a Rules of Engagement snafu with them still technically being neutral to the IS.I read there status with IS more like "lets not push our luck" the AN still have alot of people in the IS that don't trust them, and if they are going to become allies, it's going to take time to gain the different factions trust.In ordo alone a huge ammount of people do in no way trust the AN, because of how the past unfolded.I can only imagine that the situation more or less the same in the other members of IS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellervo Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) Aye, I don't think we'll see the AN acting in any openly hostile manner, even with that siege the Commonwealth laid on them yesterday.Scratch that:Bizcut Vanbrugh: Well where to start…Bizcut Vanbrugh: We are now hostile with The Commonwealth due to the Spartan King’s lack of any real apology or admittance of being wrong.Bizcut Vanbrugh: We are now on a neutral, friendly stance with the IS - not a member mind you, but friendly....Bizcut Vanbrugh: We are at war with The Commonwealth.Bizcut Vanbrugh: they attacked us today Edited January 12, 2009 by Keller Teichmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Hultcrantz Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I personally can't wait to see the AN as a member of the IS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryte Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 The AN has declared war because the IS is now neutral with them. In short, we hit the Commonwealth also, so the Commonwealth is against:The Iron Symphony, and the AN.AN sees this as a way to flex their muscles and show they're still a ball player, without facing the sheer overwhelming manpower of the IS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayce Iredell Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Still there are people in the Ordo that want to put their heels into the Alliance Navy, I engaged them once on their soil in two years. This is a way to save their own behinds, somehow I have a feeling they won't remember it when the time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellervo Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Eh, this is the new AN, not the old one. They might have some of the Ordo-hate in their group, but it probably pales in comparison to what it once was. Even if a portion of their roster still hates Ordo, they clearly consider us the lesser evil, and I think with new command and the recent internal upheaval, this is a good opportunity to repair relations with the AN. Keep in mind I say this as someone who's still relatively new to the military section of SL, but I personally find it increasingly pointless to 'lockout' a group because of past actions, when they clearly want to change or rebuild themselves, and furthermore when the perpetrators of those actions are increasingly sliding out of command positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphre Iredell Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I read there status with IS more like "lets not push our luck" the AN still have alot of people in the IS that don't trust them, and if they are going to become allies, it's going to take time to gain the different factions trust.In ordo alone a huge amount of people do in no way trust the AN, because of how the past unfolded.I can only imagine that the situation more or less the same in the other members of IS.Oh no doubt, there has been a fair share of animosity one way or another, but you must admit, much of the past heartache was solely the stubborn idiocy of Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Khalamov Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Oh no doubt, there has been a fair share of animosity one way or another, but you must admit, much of the past heartache was solely the stubborn idiocy of Jim.And Harlequin, and Nanao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphre Iredell Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Oh, well yeah, I just mean the last of that regime ended with Jim for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 Update: 39th has banned the AN for use of excessive force. AN claims it was only 3 men.I sort of expected that Sparta would be the first one to ban them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keno Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Update: 39th has banned the AN for use of excessive force.Urge... to make... crude... joke... rising... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Hultcrantz Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Urge... to make... crude... joke... rising...du eet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Khalamov Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Update: 39th has banned the AN for use of excessive force."Excessive force"? O_o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agares Tretiak Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 To play the cynic here, I'll amke the following arguement.If my military, having received a series of defections, the loss of one of it's primary leaders, a series of scandals, and the general disgust of the rest of the military community AND having lost it's allies...I'd be pretty damn sure I'd try to keep my most ardent enemies off my back, and ahndle attacking the traitorous allies who dared to leave my dominion, and then bide my time and maybe gain a chance to stab my "neuteral-friendly" enemies in the back, once I attained a measure of strength again.I doubt all outside military forces, but specifically, any not in IS. The AN is playing diplomatic footsie with the IS, possibly to avoid the crushing force IS could bring to a fight against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellervo Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) Could see it coming from the Jessie Journal / Bruno's rant about the AN and IS while standing on the hub waiting for a 'fair fight'.=In response to Mikael's post, I can't get the hang of this darn quote thing= Edited January 13, 2009 by Keller Teichmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Khalamov Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Could see it coming from the Jessie Journal / Bruno's rant about the AN and IS while standing on the hub waiting for a 'fair fight'.=In response to Mikael's post, I can't get the hang of this darn quote thing=On the bottom right of everyone's post is a little button that says "Reply". Just click that button and it will quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 Well about them not being able to stand against the Iron Symphony. That is is true if it would be in a normal war but Jason asked me if we could schedule some major assaults on each others sims some day, just for fun. Apparently the commonwealth can't muster more than 7 at the same time and they haven't had a major military operation since operation Stalwart. However this time it would be set up between Ordo and AN exclusively and announced in advance so both the AN and the Ordo have the chance to clear their schedules for this thing. I asked Jason to IM Aryte about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
