* EDIT: NOTICE: Badnarik/Salamis

[Aryte]

The use of Fairlight weapons are PROHIBITED in Badnarik and Salamis.

Apparently efficient and well built weapons are not cool, but letting the 39th and GR attack with 12 rez slaves is!

EDIT: DISREGARD.

[20:16] Anthony Lehane: If anyone asks FL guns are NOT banned

[20:16] Aryte Vesperia: They aren't?

[20:17] Anthony Lehane: for now - a lot of my officers have legitimate issues with FL guns that we need to talk about

[20:17] Anthony Lehane: that'll be saved for the next Komm meeting

[20:17] Aryte Vesperia: Well, really. Drop issues onto me and I can take them to Julia.

[Endra Ashbourne]

Aryte Vesperia wrote:

The use of Fairlight weapons are PROHIBITED in Badnarik and Salamis.

Apparently efficient and well built weapons are not cool, but letting the 39th and GR attack with 12 rez slaves is!

... ouch. I use Fairlight weapons almost exclusively (I would use Sera's if I could get the glow to be green *cough* :P).

[Arch Graves]

I think a lot more people would use Sera's guns if we were not stuck with the blue.....

[Aeriese Descenna]

I wonder what kid of ass-backwards weapon restriction we should place on Merczateers in Titan?

I realize that it's their base and their rules, but what's their issue with Fairlight?

[Gunau Sodwind]

the mercz are not allowed to wear thier armor on titan

[DamionStJames Webb]

mercz must use only fairlight weapons

[Phillip Hultcrantz]

DamionStJames Webb wrote:

mercz must use only fairlight weapons

QFT

Actually.. I say we get our M4 and have Julia whip up some scripts for it just to smite them.

[Cyphre Iredell]

I concur, we need similar rulings opposite other such rulings for fun (not as if they come around much as it is).

[Nakita]

It is because they think FL weapons caused their sim to return....

[Venes Dagger]

Maybe they want their soldiers sending their money on Operations guns? *shrugs*

[Arch Graves]

This is just another area where I'm going to say... MERCZ GG HURR... Way I was told it was Kaztrenzos.. or whatever is his name.. Idea... DANCE LURDAN DANCE AHAHAHAHAHA Seriously... morons.

[Aryte]

I'll try to see what their complaints are. No reason to be banning something that's . . worlds more efficient than most militarys, if not all.

[MikeMurdock McMillan]

from reading the two topics I think mercz and MC might either not like fairlight weapons for some reason or not liking the idea of Juilia Helping use out with not only with the sim rebuild, but giving us a long range defense system for the wall.

Either way it is weird of them showing hostility to fairlight guns even though there just guns that only have the standred damage bullet with only a few tiny features

[Aryte]

That has nothing to do with it. They've always had a weird hate for FL weapons.

[Desereck Creeggan]

I think thats sortof a very bad call...seing Julia is Ordo >____>

[Cyphre Iredell]

Its more a bad call because there really aren't any other outside makers of firearms that are allowable (or 'usable' for that matter) in regular SL combat. What do they expect to be used? Operations? Breach/C-tech? Black Ops? Either way, an unfounded hatred towards such weaponry, with probably no knowledge of how guns typically operate here.

[Sekonda Huet]

What the fuck is a Fairlight weapon? Please PM me it? c.c

[Blaze Wiles]

o.O *facepaws*

thats about as much as I can say about that...

(As for Black Ops, someone neglected to inform the scripter that the regulations have changed somewhat since the last anyone bothered to look. x.x; We will get there if I have anything to say about it anyway...)

[Keystone Gray]

When I was in the Mercz I remember certain members complaining about how Ordo was disorganized and unprofessional to be using Fairlight weaponry. That said, my next best guess would be the killing of competition for Operations. There were also false concerns about lag with any weaponry other than Operations, even when shown weapon performance test logs, which included script time and IPS taken in a blank Class 5 sim. The claim that everyone's own guns don't lag as much as the rest is a bold one, and everyone makes this claim often. Some give that assumption leeway and others do not. The Merczateers have chosen not to.

That said, it's their sim and therefore those are their rules. We can't do anything about it.

[Phillip Hultcrantz]

Keystone Gray wrote:

When I was in the Mercz I remember certain members complaining about how Ordo was disorganized and unprofessional to be using Fairlight weaponry. That said, my next best guess would be the killing of competition for Operations. There were also false concerns about lag with any weaponry other than Operations, even when shown weapon performance test logs, which included script time and IPS taken in a blank Class 5 sim. The claim that everyone's own guns don't lag as much as the rest is a bold one, and everyone makes this claim often. Some give that assumption leeway and others do not. The Merczateers have chosen not to.

That said, it's their sim and therefore those are their rules. We can't do anything about it.

Wrong, we can talk some sense into them...

The main issues they have with FL weapons are small things like short reloads and the 2 prim bullets. They blame their -void- sims lag on the HD bullets. They complain about the fire rate of soem FL weapons and some complain about the unlimited ammo option.

They aren't worried about competition as Mercz have never been allowed to use any weapon other than Operations weapons and their standard issued gear. We don't allow the use of Operations weapons due to Anthony and Lurdan not holding out on a deal they made to allow Mercz to use Titan ind. weapons if we allow the use of their guns by our members.

Most of their complaints are based on pure ignorance of FL weapons.

[Kellervo]

I'll show em laggy low-performance wepon. e_e

*starts copy-pastaing rez-slave scripts into his Groza*

[Aryte]

Disregard-- Anthony hath spoken.

20:16] Anthony Lehane: If anyone asks FL guns are NOT banned

[20:16] Aryte Vesperia: They aren't?

[20:17] Anthony Lehane: for now - a lot of my officers have legitimate issues with FL guns that we need to talk about

[20:17] Anthony Lehane: that'll be saved for the next Komm meeting

[20:17] Aryte Vesperia: Well, really. Drop issues onto me and I can take them to Julia.

[Sera Otoro]

Arch Graves wrote:

I think a lot more people would use Sera's guns if we were not stuck with the blue.....

... you know what...? sod it... im going to offer a selection of the following... green blue red and orange... no other colors... so dont bother asking or complaining about it... be glad i have decided to do this...

[Aeriese Descenna]

Sera Otoro wrote:

Arch Graves wrote:

I think a lot more people would use Sera's guns if we were not stuck with the blue.....

... you know what...? sod it... im going to offer a selection of the following... green blue red and orange... no other colors... so dont bother asking or complaining about it... be glad i have decided to do this...

Thankies Sera. We appreciate that you're willing to do this for us :3

[Cyphre Iredell]

Yeah, but you forgot purple for Karlhockey :|